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The Frogs

The Frogs

Written by: Alex Ubokudom Tobie Windham
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Alex & Tobie travel to different theater communities in LA to explore what’s happening on the ground. They have conversations with some of the world’s most renowned theater practitioners. Discussing broad topics: theater, film, TV, music, current events—all viewed through the lens of theater and culture. The Frogs will get people excited about the theater by first conquering our city (LA), then the country, and eventually the world—by engaging the community in meaningful conversations about the arts. The Frogs are unapologetically Black, theater nerd culture, mixed with real-world energy. It’s intellectual and ratchet, classy but down-to-earth.© 2025 Outside In Theatre Art Entertainment & Performing Arts
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  • Robert Wisdom: Presence is the Work
    Apr 27 2026

    Robert Wisdom: Presence is the Work


    Robert Wisdom will next be seen in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf opposite Chris Pratt and Taylor Kitsch, and in Netflix’s Trinity alongside Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Richard Madden, and Marcia Gay Harden.


    He appeared in HBO’s Barry opposite Bill Hader and in Apple TV+‘s Black Bird. On the film side, he’s worked with Denzel Washington on A Journal for Jordan and appeared in everything from Motherless Brooklyn to The Dark Knight Rises.

    But what defines Robert’s work isn’t the credits. It’s the presence.


    From Bunny Colvin on The Wire to rooms across television and film, he brings a lived-in quality that can’t be manufactured. You feel the history. You feel the weight. Nothing is extra.


    This is an actor who has moved through life and craft at the same time. Building a body of work that speaks before it explains.


    Theatre. Culture. Vibe.


    Production Credits:

    A production of Outside In Theatre in Highland Park, Los Angeles

    Created by Alex Ubokudom & Tobie Windham

    Edited by Byron Rogers, Jr.

    Recorded & Mixed by Byron Rogers, Jr.

    Theme Song by Arlo Sanders

    Produced by Jessica Hanna

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    50 mins
  • Angelica Chéri: Writing the Future
    Mar 30 2026


    Angelica Chéri: Writing the Future

    Angelica Chéri: playwright, musical theatre writer, screenwriter, poet. Named by Variety as one of Broadway’s Top Ten Stars to Watch in 2025, Angelica is one of the most exciting voices shaping the future of theatre and musical storytelling.

    You may know her work from the Prophet’s Cycle Trilogy-The Seeds of Abraham, The Sting of White Roses, and Crowndation: I Will Not Lie to David, as well as plays like Berta, Berta and The Wiring & the Switches. Her musical Wanted, written with collaborator Ross Baum, won the prestigious Richard Rodgers Award, was named a New York Times Critic’s Pick, and is headed to Broadway in Fall 2026.

    We talk about building theatrical worlds that move between history, myth, and prophecy. We get into the impact of family on artistry and the journey of bringing Phenomenal Woman, her biographical play about Maya Angelou, directed by Debbie Allen, toward its Broadway premiere.

    Angelica is out here writing plays, musicals, TV, and immersive worlds like the lines between them don’t matter. This is a conversation about big imagination, collaboration, and just a good time.

    IG @angelicacheri

    Theatre. Culture. Vibe.

    Production Credits:

    A production of Outside In Theatre in Highland Park, Los Angeles

    Created by Alex Ubokudom & Tobie Windham

    Technical Production by Byron Rogers, Jr.

    Theme Song by Arlo Sanders | Produced by Jessica Hanna​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​


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    40 mins
  • Johnny Ray Gill: In Every Form
    Feb 23 2026

    Johnny Ray Gill: In Every Form

    It’s Black History Month, and we’re sitting down with a friend of the pod, Johnny Ray Gill, who is a magnificent actor and storyteller. Season two of Cross dropped February 11th on Prime, and Johnny Ray as Bobby Trey is layered, dangerous, and deeply human. You can feel the weight of history underneath his performance. Johnny doesn’t just play characters. He builds inner lives that carry memory and consequence.

    A UCSD/La Jolla Playhouse MFA graduate, Johnny Ray moves fluidly across television, cinema, and music. You’ve seen him as Kerwin in Rectify, Sam in Underground, Gustav in Braindead, and Sex Henry in Grand Crew, alongside work in Snowfall, True Blood, Chicago P.D., and NCIS. Beyond acting, he’s a writer and director under his banner First Flock Pictures, with award-winning projects like Laying Pipe and a debut rap album, Screenplays, led by the haunting “Green Shoe Music.”

    This episode is about story, satire, climate justice, and the responsibility of making art that refuses to be contained

    IG & Twitter @JohnnyRayGill

    Theatre. Culture. Vibe.

    Production Credits:

    A production of Outside In Theatre in Highland Park, Los Angeles

    Created by Alex Ubokudom & Tobie Windham

    Edited by Byron Rogers, Jr.

    Recorded & Mixed by Byron Rogers, Jr.

    Theme Song by Arlo Sanders

    Produced by Brianna Seamster & Jessica Hanna


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    48 mins
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