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We are joined by Adele Chaplin, a humanist celebrant who starts every wedding and funeral with a blank page and a very real question: who are these people?

Adele’s journey is anything but traditional. Raised in Dundee, she took a scenic route through sales jobs, BBC web development and the National Archives before landing in what she now calls “the best job in the world.” Along the way, she found humanism — a belief system with no higher power or afterlife, but a deep trust in people, connection and meaning.

We unpack what that looks like in practice: weddings with vows that are genuinely funny or achingly tender, rituals invented from scratch, and ceremonies featuring everything from owl-delivered rings to meadow parties with live bands and fire-breathers. We also talk legal realities (yes, the paperwork bit is still annoying in England and Wales… for now).

On the funeral side, Adele is honest, kind and refreshingly fearless — telling true stories, embracing quirks, and helping families say goodbye in ways that actually fit. From green burials to acid house send-offs (and her own surprisingly upbeat funeral playlist), this is an episode about choosing meaning over manuals — and having a laugh along the way.

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We met a cleaner who built a business with zero experience. A flooring pro radiating full wizard energy. A travel lead, financial advisors, and even a DJ.. because why wouldn't we.

Throw in IT, private investigation, PR, and business consulting, and the show quickly stopped feeling like a podcast and started feeling like a dinner party where everyone has a wildly different job and far too much insight for one table. Somewhere along the way, we also talked menopause and aromatherapy… because leadership lessons show up in unexpected places.

Across six months, we collected amazing guests, big laughs, and more than a few “wait…what?” moments.

There was wisdom. There was chaos. There were stories we’re still unpacking.

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What if the “dream job” isn’t actually the dream?

This week we’re chatting with Emma Propter King, whose career has taken her from conservatoire practice rooms to celebrity contact lists and even a private 737 (casual). On paper, it’s all very glossy. In real life? Exhausting, all-consuming, and quietly wrecking everything else.

Emma tells us about her ultra-disciplined early years, before lifting the curtain on life as a PA to the mega-rich. We’re talking 24/7 availability, wild requests, Christmas-morning emergencies, and fixing couture disasters in Paris. Yes, there are famous names… but the real story is how fast “excess” becomes normal, and how much it costs in sleep, sanity, and missed life.

Then comes the plot twist: Emma steps off the jet, heads back to Suffolk, and builds a calmer, meaningful career as Head of Communications at Churchmanor Estates. Same high standards, zero private planes. She shares how those elite skills actually translate brilliantly to real-world impact—brands, websites, community, and work that ends at a sensible hour!

If you’ve ever questioned whether status is worth the stress, or dreamed about choosing peace over polish, this one’s for you.

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