Buckle up for a no-holds-barred chat with Elliot Ikilei from Hobson's Pledge. We dive into his wild ride from a chaotic upbringing – solo parents on both sides, teenage drugs, booze, and rebellion – to finding faith at 25 and turning it all around through youth work. Elliot pulls no punches on the bad cases that broke him, the wins that fueled him, and why Hobson's Pledge is battling what he calls "tribal separatism" in NZ. From government overreach to cultural division, we cover the fight for equality, the Treaty mess, and why the left's playbook is failing. If you're sick of the spin, this episode cuts through the crap. Listen now – and join the pushback.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro & Cigar Review (Canteros.nz)
01:07 - Welcome & Guest Introduction
02:24 - Elliot’s Personal Background: From Chaos to Christianity
06:11 - The Shift: Family Structure vs Colonisation Narrative
08:00 - Journey into Politics & Conservative Party Years
13:25 - Critique of Luxon & Hipkins Leadership
18:22 - COVID Authoritarianism & Jacinda Ardern
30:00 - The Reality of Jacinda’s “Kindness”
38:00 - Parliament Protest & Political Loyalty
43:08 - Joining Hobson’s Pledge & The “Racist” Label
50:00 - Media Bias & Independent Media
58:00 - Stochastic Terrorism & Demonisation of Opponents
01:05:00 - Posie Parker, Brian Tamaki & Man Up
01:15:00 - Foreign Policy: China in the Pacific & Fiji
01:22:54 - 2026 Election Outlook & NZ First Surge
01:32:13 - Hobson’s Pledge Wins & Closing Thoughts

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Cam sits down with the man causing absolute chaos in Māori social media circles — the guy they call Shubz.

After years of watching his people get failed by the very organisations claiming to represent them, Shubz decided enough was enough. What started as live streams on TikTok has turned into a full-frontal assault on iwi elites, unaccountable millions in Treaty settlements, and the “you’re not Māori enough” gatekeeping that shuts down anyone who steps out of line.

In this wide-ranging conversation they cover:
- His grandmother’s influence and growing up around politics
- Why so many Māori are still conditioned to believe Labour is the only option
- The “waste of Māori blood” attack on Winston Peters and what it really reveals
- The disconnect between the loud activist class and ordinary Māori on the ground
- How Alfred Ngaro’s story convinced him National wasn’t the enemy he’d been told

00:00 – Welcome & Cigar Review (Perdomo Legacy Connecticut Grand Belicoso)
03:40 – Introducing Shubz
06:30 – How Shubz went from live streamer to poking the Māori elite
11:20 – “You’ve come out of nowhere and caused a fair bit of ruckus”
15:50 – Growing up around politics, seeing the hypocrisy first-hand
22:10 – Grandmother’s influence and standing up for the people
28:40 – The “waste of Māori blood” comment to Winston Peters
34:50 – Alfred Ngaro’s story and being told he was “in the wrong party”
41:30 – Why Labour is still pushed as the only option for Māori
48:15 – Iwi elites, funding that never filters down, and real injustice
55:40 – The disconnect between activist class and ordinary Māori
1:02:00 – Final thoughts and where this goes from here

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The Tyrannosaurus Machine: Nathan Smith on Cancellation, Media Lies, and the "Shadow Map" of Power

Former journalist and political insider Nathan Smith joins Cam Slater to pull back the curtain on how the machinery of power actually works. From the "Tyrannosaurus" media narrative that fuels public cancellations to the concept of "Love Speech"—the unregulated PR manipulation that runs our newsfeeds—this is a masterclass in seeing through the establishment's funhouse mirror.

We also go global: Why the "Iran is winning" narrative is a fantasy, how the Middle East conflict is actually a proxy for China's energy security, and the "Permanent Government" of bureaucrats who wait out elected politicians.

Featuring Dunbarton Dondurma cigars from Canteros.nz (http://canteros.nz/).

00:00 - Cigar Review & Introduction

01:12 - The Cancellation Story: Tyrannosaurus vs Lizard

06:14 - Behind the Curtain: Business & Politics

10:07 - The Tyrannosaurus Machine: Puppet Masters

17:08 - Love Speech vs. Hate Speech: The PR Game

28:30 - The Shadow Map of NZ Politics

32:41 - Middle East Reality Check: Iran & Israel

42:58 - The China Play: Oil, Resources, and Proxy Wars

53:42 - Military Capability: US Dominance & Grey Zones

01:04:12 - The Expert Problem: Credentialism & "Beijing Bob"

01:13:08 - The Permanent Government: Bureaucracy vs Voters

01:21:58 - Local Politics Reality Check: Luxon & The Machine

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