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The HR Tech Scale-Up Show

The HR Tech Scale-Up Show

Written by: Howard Flint
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Welcome to the HR Tech Scale-up podcast by AMP Strategists, where we discuss how HR Technology Founders can successfully grow and scale their businesses.

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  • AI First? What HR Tech Founders Should Really Focus On
    Dec 2 2025

    Keywords

    AI, HR technology, product strategy, user expectations, data strategy, automation, innovation, user interface, regulation, contextual intelligence

    Summary

    In this episode of the HR Tech Scale-Up Show, Howard Flint and Olivier Vidal discuss the integration of AI in HR technology. They explore the evolving user expectations, the importance of data strategy, and the challenges faced by legacy systems in adapting to AI. Olivier shares insights on innovative AI platforms and the need for HR tech founders to focus on unique assets and user journeys to leverage AI effectively. The conversation also touches on the regulatory landscape and the importance of building trust in AI solutions.

    Takeaways

    • AI is not just about language models; it's a broader spectrum.
    • User expectations are evolving rapidly with AI capabilities.
    • You don't have an AI strategy until you have a data strategy.
    • Building unique features requires leveraging unique data assets.
    • AI-first platforms differ fundamentally from traditional software.
    • Trust and regulation are critical in the AI landscape.
    • Innovative platforms are focusing on outcomes rather than just software.
    • User interface design is crucial for engagement in HR tech.
    • Legacy systems need significant re-engineering to integrate AI.
    • Understanding user journeys is essential for effective AI application.

    Sound Bites

    • "AI is a strategy, there is a set"
    • "What unique assets do we have?"
    • "User expectations are the sky"

    Chapters

    00:00
    Introduction to AI in HR Technology

    02:46
    Understanding AI Beyond Language Models

    05:32
    User Expectations and AI Integration

    08:14
    The Push vs. Pull of AI Development

    10:33
    Examples of AI-First Platforms

    13:12
    User Interface and Experience in HR Tech

    15:29
    Re-engineering Legacy Systems for AI

    16:32
    Architecture Differences in AI Platforms

    18:37
    Data as a Core Asset in AI Strategy

    21:14
    Trust, Risk, and Regulation in AI

    23:24
    Key Takeaways for HR Tech Founders

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    27 mins
  • Building Value to Exit: How to Maximise Growth and Prepare for an Exit
    Oct 7 2025

    Keywords

    HR tech, exit readiness, M&A, valuation, customer retention, predictable revenue, growth strategy, market trends, SaaS, business valuation


    Summary

    This podcast has been taken from a webinar brought to you by our panel of M&S and growth experts at AMP Strategists, which discusses the essential strategies for HR tech founders to prepare their businesses for exit, focusing on maximising valuation and attracting buyers. Key topics include the current state of the HR tech market, building blocks of value, and actionable levers to enhance business readiness for acquisition. The conversation emphasises the importance of predictable revenues, customer retention, scalable growth, and market defensibility, culminating in practical advice for founders aiming to optimise their exit strategy.


    Takeaways

    Getting your business ready for exit is crucial for maximising valuation.

    The HR tech market has seen significant changes, with a flight to quality among buyers.

    Predictable and repeatable revenues are essential for attracting buyers.

    Customer retention is as important as acquiring new customers.

    Aim for a net revenue retention rate of over 100%.

    Scalable growth engines are vital for long-term success.

    Managing customer concentration risk is critical for valuation.

    Defensibility in market position can drive up acquisition interest.

    Operational margins and efficiency are key metrics for buyers.

    Valuation is ultimately determined by what buyers are willing to pay.



    Sound bites

    "How do you get your business ready for exit?"

    "You can't scale a leaky bucket."

    "Aim for a CAC-LTV ratio of around five to one."



    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to HR Tech Exit Strategies

    03:22 Current State of the HR Tech Market

    08:14 Building Blocks of Value in HR Tech

    13:17 Leveraging Predictable Revenue for Exit

    17:40 Importance of Customer Retention

    21:24 Scalable Growth Strategies

    26:44 Managing Customer Concentration Risks

    29:13 Defending Your Market Position

    29:42 Defining Your Moat: The Key to Market Positioning

    35:31 Understanding Margins and Operational Efficiency

    43:55 Summarising the Seven Levers for Exit Readiness

    46:38 The Role of Non-Financial Factors in Valuation

    48:42 Navigating Pricing Models and Revenue Strategies

    51:10 Valuation Shifts: From Growth to Profitability

    53:20 Calculating and Increasing Valuation for Exit



    Send your HR Tech M&A questions from the webinar to: howard.flint@ampstrategists.com


    To find out more about how AMP Strategists can help value your business and help you prepare for an exit, visit: https://www.ampstrategists.com


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    53 mins
  • From Demo to Deal: Mastering HR Tech Sales
    Sep 3 2025

    Keywords

    HR Tech, Sales Demos, Sales Process, Demo Structure, Closing Techniques, Sales Performance, Technology Solutions, Client Engagement, Discovery Calls, Sales Strategy

    Summary

    In this episode of the HR Tech Scale Up Show, Howard Flint, Greg Johnson and Dawn Hutchinson from AMP Strategists discuss the critical role of sales demos in the HR tech industry. They explore how to effectively integrate demos into the sales process, emphasising the importance of discovery calls and understanding client pain points. The conversation also covers structuring demos to focus on outcomes rather than features, the significance of closing techniques, and strategies for improving demo performance over time.

    Takeaways

    • Sales demos are integral to the sales process, not standalone events.
    • Discovery calls are essential for understanding client needs before demos.
    • Demos should focus on solving specific client pain points.
    • Engaging clients during demos leads to better outcomes.
    • Leave time at the end of demos for discussing next steps.
    • Recording demos can aid in coaching and marketing efforts.
    • Salespeople should prioritise demonstrating value over features.
    • Demos should be conversational and interactive.
    • Best practices from successful demos should be shared across teams.
    • Continuous improvement in demo techniques is crucial for success.

    Sound Bites

    • "Engage the client throughout the demo."
    • "Plan your objectives before the demo."
    • "Leave time for next steps at the end."

    Chapters

    00:00
    The Importance of Sales Demos in HR Tech

    02:59
    Integrating Demos into the Sales Process

    06:27
    Structuring an Effective Demo

    16:26
    Closing Strategies Post-Demo

    18:25
    Continuous Improvement of Demo Performance

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    21 mins
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