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The Hybrid

The Hybrid

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Welcome to The Hybrid — where cannabis policy, politics, and pop culture collide. Hosted by former state regulators Shawn Collins (MA) and Erik Gundersen (ME), this podcast brings insider perspective to the evolving world of cannabis: from regulatory rollouts and federal rescheduling to cultural trends shaping the industry’s next era. Every episode, Shawn and Erik unpack the forces defining modern cannabis — law, markets, and media — with sharp insight, humor, and experience from the inside. 🎙️ Follow @TheHybridPod on Instagram for exclusive clips and behind-the-scenes moments.The Hybrid Podcast Politics & Government
Episodes
  • #13 | Bets and Tripwires - Predictions for 2026
    Jan 12 2026

    Shawn Collins of THC Group and Erik Gundersen of ERG Strategies lay out their predictions for the cannabis industry in 2026 using a simple framework: the bets they think will shape the year, and the tripwires that could force policy to move fast and sideways.

    The conversation breaks down five core dynamics, including evolving federal posture, the shift from building state programs to optimizing them, consolidation pressure in a capital-starved market, the coming tax fights in state capitols, and why Congress may revisit the hemp definition again with real consequences for intoxicating products and enforcement. Then they dig into the tripwires, the headline-driven and courtroom-driven events that regulators cannot schedule and operators cannot ignore, and how those shocks tend to reshape the operating environment overnight.

    It’s an episode about governance, market structure, and staying ahead of regulatory reality in a year that will reward preparation.


    🎧 New episodes drop regularly. Follow @TheHybridPod on Instagram for updates.


    🔎 Topics: 2026 cannabis forecast, cannabis policy, federal cannabis posture, state program optimization, cannabis consolidation, cannabis taxes, hemp definition, intoxicating hemp, regulatory risk, compliance strategy, enforcement dynamics, The Hybrid podcast

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    1 hr and 30 mins
  • #12 | Deirdra O’Gorman on the Cannabis Cash Problem
    Dec 15 2025

    Shawn Collins of THC Group and Erik Gundersen of ERG Strategies sit down with Deirdra O’Gorman, CEO of Empyreal Logistics, to unpack the cannabis cash problem and why it still shapes the industry’s day-to-day reality.

    The conversation moves through banking friction, compliance mechanics, and the operational pressure that comes with moving money in a market built on legal contradictions. Deirdra walks through what “compliant” cash logistics actually looks like, why cash remains the default even in mature states, and what needs to change for cannabis commerce to start behaving like every other industry. It’s an episode about infrastructure, incentives, and the real-world cost of leaving a multibillion-dollar market stuck in the cash economy.


    🎧 New episodes drop regularly. Follow @TheHybridPod on Instagram for updates.


    🔎 Topics: cannabis banking, cannabis cash, cash logistics, Empyreal Logistics, Deirdra O’Gorman, compliance, public safety, cannabis regulation, federal-state policy gap, dispensary operations, The Hybrid podcast

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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • #11 | The Thanksgiving Side Dish Draft: A Regulators’ Holiday Special
    Nov 25 2025

    Shawn Collins of THC Group and Erik Gundersen of ERG Strategies sit down for a Thanksgiving Special of The Hybrid, taking a lighter, more personal look at the world they came from - and the world they’re building now.

    The conversation moves through gratitude, governance, and the strange overlap between public service and holiday chaos. They draft their ideal Thanksgiving plates, revisit the lessons that shaped them as regulators, and celebrate the people and moments that brought them here. It’s an episode built on humor, honesty, and the quiet clarity that comes with looking back at the year.


    🎧 New episodes drop regularly. Follow @TheHybridPod on Instagram for updates.


    🔎 Topics: Thanksgiving special, cannabis culture, regulators, policy stories, side dish draft, Shawn Collins, Erik Gundersen, The Hybrid podcast

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    1 hr and 2 mins
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