In this episode of The Inevitability Curve, host Chris Blask and guest Amelie Karan engage in a deep, candid conversation about the evolution, current state, and future of artificial intelligence (AI) within the context of cybersecurity and societal impact. They explore how AI has transformed over the last three decades, transitioning from an academic concept into a powerful automated decision science tool. Emily reflects on her early experience with AI and computer engineering in the 1990s, highlighting the early limitations and conceptual nature of AI during that period.

In this episode of “The Inevitability Curve,” Chris Blask engages in a deep discussion with Ken Swick, exploring the evolution of policy frameworks and their fundamental importance in technology and governance. They touch upon the significance of understanding policies through historical lenses, emphasizing how technology often outpaces the policies that govern it. Their conversation also involves personal anecdotes about sailing, the complexities of international politics, and how the current manipulation and interpretation of policies in the United States are leading to missteps on the global stage. They consider the flexibility and rigidity of policies in various countries while reflecting on how safety measures and regulations could sometimes overshadow essential life lessons for younger generations. They conclude with thoughts on the role of artificial intelligence in shaping future policy-making processes, emphasizing the need for a balanced approach when using technology to inform decision-making.

Chris Blask and Casey Ellis, co-founder of Bugcrowd, explore the evolution of AI in cybersecurity. They discuss the generative AI hype cycle, the challenges faced, and introduce a taxonomy for AI's role in risk management. The conversation emphasizes the need for clear definitions of AI for effective policy and regulation. They highlight the importance of resilience, optimism, and community contributions in addressing emerging cybersecurity risks.

In this episode of “The Inevitability Curve,” Chris Blask and Mike Dugent discuss the multifaceted topic of risk in the realm of technology, particularly focusing on operational technology (OT) and the intersection of artificial intelligence (AI) with cybersecurity. They reflect on their initial friendship and collaborations, before diving into the challenges of quantifying and managing risk, especially in light of increasingly interconnected systems. Mike shares insights from his extensive experience in cybersecurity for operational technology and how these areas are becoming more critical at the corporate level. The conversation touches on the evolving role of AI in managing risk and enhancing situational awareness across various industries, including supply chain security. Their optimism about technological advancements is framed around the benefits of automation and AI, foreseeing a future where technology can significantly improve risk management, ultimately aiding defenders in cybersecurity.

Host Chris Blask and guest Blaine McNutt delve into the evolution of cybersecurity, discussing their experiences in the field and the changes they’ve witnessed over the decades. They begin by reflecting on their early careers in network security, focusing on military-grade security and the inception of early firewalls. As they explore the transformation of security measures from traditional models to modern approaches, they touch on concepts such as zero trust, non-repudiation, and the impact of cloud technologies on current security paradigms. They examine the significance of visibility and contextual understanding in managing security in an increasingly complex digital landscape, the challenges posed by too many alerts, and the potential of AI and quantum computing to reshape the field. They underscore the importance of a proactive approach to security, emphasizing the need for foundational hardening, clarity in policies, and a return to core tenants that have stood the test of time.

A thought-provoking discussion with Dennis Devlin about the evolving nature of truth and authenticity in human interactions, information sharing and the digital landscape. They explore the historical context of trust stemming from face-to-face interactions to today’s increasingly anonymous digital platforms. The conversation delves into the complexities of identity management, the challenges presented by misinformation in the online age, and the need for systems that facilitate authentic communication and trust in a global, interconnected supply chain. They touch upon the implications of technological advancements, such as blockchain, for trust establishment and transparency. The show emphasizes that while there have been significant developments in technology that could assist in promoting authenticity and truth, systemic hesitations and structural challenges still exist, leading to a pressing need for pragmatic solutions.

Yoav Raiter, CEO of Raidian.ai, joins Chris in discussing the evolution of rules, regulations, compliance, and governance. The emergence of the latest generation of AI may finally give us rapid visibility into the rules and regulations that impact us, an dwhere we currently fit in that maze.

Phil Englert and our host Chris Blask have been co-chairing a CISA working group on software bill of material (SBOM) sharing. The working group has developed a process to help ISACs and similar organizations determine the control architecture necessary to manage the distribution of SBOMs among their members.