In the second episode of The Learning Curve, Sanjay Srivastava speaks with Kemi Jona, Vice Provost for Online Education at the University of Virginia, about a growing contradiction in higher education: employers consistently rank real work experience above everything else, yet internship opportunities keep shrinking. Their conversation explores what that gap means for students, how UVA is responding with career academies and the AI4VA initiative, and what a new grand bargain between universities and employers could look like.

In the first episode of The Learning Curve, Sanjay Srivastava is joined by Sesh Murthy of UC San Diego for a conversation about how AI can support better learning when it is designed with intention. Together, they discuss the limits of one-size-fits-all support, the importance of preserving productive struggle, and how scaffolding and instant feedback can help learners build confidence and stay engaged. They also reflect on course redesign, increased practice, and early evidence that well-designed AI support can improve outcomes in gateway STEM learning.