We paint adopters as heroes, but in reality, there is nothing heroic about taking somebody else's kid. There are so many ways to support such families!

Today, Matthew Anthony joins us on the show to explore transnational/racial adoption. Matthew Anthony, formerly known as Matthew Charles, is a Black transnational/racial adoptee, a survivor of a cult, writer, poet, author of You Can Not Burn The Sun (2020), and host of little did u know - a podcast that seeks to reveal the precarity of transnational/racial adoption and dream of an Abolitionist future by centering Adoptees and Professionals. He currently lives in Baltimore and is eagerly plotting his escape from this capitalist hellhole.

In the session, Mathew shares his rough experience as a transnational/racial adoptee in a white evangelical family, the legality of adoption, his poem about Moses & how it’s relevant to every adoptee's life, as well as how to save a black child's life. Besides, we delve into creating a safe space for our future descendants through art and raising the adoptees' voices no matter how many relationships we lose! 

Timestamps:

[00:57] About Mathew Anthony
[03:47] What it means to be a transnational/transracial adoptee in the US
[09:17] The legality of the adoption
[17:52] Matthew’s caregivers & why they didn’t feel the need to protect him
[25:06] Matthew’s poem on Moses & how it relates to his life as an adoptee
[36:17] Difference between white & black art
[40:08] Creating a safe space for all marginalized kids & future descendants
[53:43] Ethiopia closing adoption & protecting their children
[54:50] Anthony’s most shocking moment in life as an adoptee that shifted his
perspective on everything
[01:00:00] Jo's story on losing most of her relationships for defending adoptees

Let’s Connect!

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Matthias Roberts is a queer psychotherapist, podcaster and author of Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms and co-hosts Selfie alongside fellow therapist Kristen Howerton. He holds two master's degrees, one in Theology and Culture and the one in Counseling Psychology from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology.

Matthias writes and speaks nationwide about the intersections between gender, sexuality, mental health, and theology. His newest book, Holy Runaways will release Fall 2023

In the show today, we talked about navigating life through the shame that comes with accepting our sexuality. 

Topic Discussed 

2:47 About the book, "Beyond Shame."

12:35 The effect of splitting sexual identities to gain acceptance.

25:59 Compromise doesn't always solve issues.

34:24 Dealing with not being accepted.

49:38 Mathias's new book, "Holy Runaways."

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Patty Krawec is an Anishinaabe and Ukrainian writer and speaker from Lac Seul First Nation. She serves on the board of the Fort Erie Native Friendship Center and is active with the Strong Water Singers. She is the cohost of the popular Medicine for the Resistance podcast and host of the online book club Ambe: A Year of Indigenous Reading. Her work has been published in Sojourners and Canadian Living. Krawec is a member of Chippawa Presbyterian Church and lives in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

In the show today, Jo and Patty explore what it means to become kin. They talk about returning to ancestral lands and what that actually means. The American story is all about displacement, so what does it mean to all coexist together? Listen to this episode for exploration on that and so much more with Patty.

In This Episode

• 4:58 - How to be good kin to each other
• 7:13 - Three different perspectives on kinship
• 15:10 - Unforgetting history
• 28:17 - The first step towards becoming kin
• 35:38 - Books vs the lived experience
• 45:45 - Retaining connection to ancestral lands

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