Episodes

  • Jennifer Ng'andu
    Nov 20 2025

    Jennifer Ng'andu, managing director at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, talks about ways to shift cultural mindsets to better serve children and families across the country.

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    19 mins
  • Carmen Rojas
    Jul 31 2025

    Dr. Carmen Rojas, president and CEO of the Marguerite Casey Foundation, talks about philanthropy's crucial role in moving money to frontline organizations that are defending civil society.

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    24 mins
  • Dominica McBride
    Jun 30 2025

    Dominica McBride, founder of BECOME, talks about culturally responsive evaluation as social justice and four themes from her book, Becoming Change Makers: The Exquisite Path to Leadership and Liberation for Women of Color.

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    17 mins
  • Katya Fels Smyth
    Mar 31 2025

    Katya Fels Smyth, founder and CEO of Full Frame Initiative, talks about well-being justice, the importance of shifting power in systems change, and the organization's closing after more than 15 years.

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    22 mins
  • Jeff Fuhrer
    Nov 21 2024

    Jeff Fuhrer breaks down false narratives about the U.S. economy—and how to change them to create more opportunity for all. He is the author of The Myth That Made Us: How False Beliefs about Racism and Meritocracy Broke Our Economy (and How to Fix It).

    Jeff's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262552851/the-myth-that-made-us/

    Jeff's recent article for the Brookings Institution, "The cost of being poor is rising. And it’s worse for poor families of color": https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-cost-of-being-poor-is-rising-and-its-worse-for-poor-families-of-color/

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    22 mins
  • Marcus Walton
    Oct 31 2024

    Marcus Walton, president and CEO of GEO, sits down with Equal Measure's Leon T. Andrews, Jr., to speak about the importance of culture and community in shifting philanthropic grantmaking.

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    19 mins
  • Temi F. Bennett and Hanh Le
    Jul 25 2024

    Temi F. Bennett and Hanh Le from iF, A Foundation for Radical Possibility, talk about racial equity versus racial justice and disrupting norms in the philanthroptic sector.

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    21 mins
  • Crystal Hayling
    Jun 18 2024

    Crystal Hayling, former executive director of the Libra Foundation, discusses her family’s roots in civil rights, the link between activism and democracy, and building intersectional movements for change. Learn more on The Measure.

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    20 mins