• THE RADIO VAGABOND PALLE BO
    Jan 7 2026
    THE RADIO VAGABOND (Season 6 | Episode 220) Trading Empty for Open with Palle Bo (Season 6 | Episode 219) [TESSA] Are you ready to flip the script on aging and discover a life wide open? On this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast Amir and I welcome back a true legend of the open road, Palle Bo. Palle is the definition of an “Open Nester”—someone who decided that once the kids flew the coop, it was time to open the door to endless possibilities. Known as the “Radio Vagabond,” Palle traded his secure life in Denmark for a global adventure that has taken him to over 100 countries. Whether you are dreaming of selling it all or just taking a longer vacation, his story is bound to inspire your inner nomad. You might assume that traveling the world requires a massive bank account, but Palle busts that myth right away. Back in 2016, after his youngest child moved out, he sold his house, car, and furniture to live out of a suitcase. Surprisingly, he spends about half of what he used to spend living a “normal” life in Denmark. He isn’t retired; he’s a digital nomad who runs a production company from his laptop, proving that you really can work from anywhere—whether that’s a cafe in Colombia or a road trip through Saudi Arabia. However, Palle is quick to point out that this lifestyle requires a bit of mindfulness to truly enjoy it. He talks candidly about “travel fatigue” and the importance of slowing down to “get the hunger back”. If he finds himself staring at a beautiful waterfall and not feeling the magic, he knows it’s time to check into a hostel and do absolutely nothing for a while. As Tessa notes, meaningful travel isn’t about rushing through a checklist; it’s about staying long enough that the local coffee shop guy knows your name. One of the biggest fears Open Nesters face is losing touch with their children, but Palle’s experience has been the exact opposite. He reveals that he actually speaks to his kids more now than he did when they were all living under the same roof. They think it’s pretty cool to have a dad out exploring the world, and they even plan epic meet-ups, like an upcoming road trip across the UK. It turns out that distance doesn’t have to mean disconnection; in fact, it can spark a whole new kind of adult relationship. Before you rush to pack your bags, Palle offers some honest advice: this life isn’t for everyone. If you love your own bed and the convenience of next-day Amazon deliveries, you might prefer a home base. But if you are curious, he suggests testing the waters by renting out your place for six months before burning any bridges. To hear more about his incredible journey—from Maasai villages to digital nomad conferences—be sure to check out Palle Bo’s own show, The Radio Vagabond Podcast. Safe travels! About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure Freedom of Expression Exploration and Fun Body Movement New circles of friends Deep love relationships
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    45 mins
  • Courage (Season 6 | Episode 219)
    Jan 1 2026
    Courage (Season 6 | Episode 219) An Interview with Tessa & Amir (Season 6 | Episode 219) [TESSA] In this episode, we delve into the profound themes of relationships, sexuality, and spirituality as part of our exploration of how to embrace aging with vitality. As empty nesters transitioning to a phase of life filled with endless possibilities, my partner and I share our journey into being “open nesters,” a term capturing our commitment to experiences, adventure, and deeper connections rather than merely feeling the void left by our grown children. This season opener invites listeners to reflect on courage and authenticity as we move into the new year. We engage in a heartfelt conversation with our daughter, discussing the significance of courage as we navigate this stage of life. Through her perspective, we examine the nuanced understanding of what it means to be courageous—not simply in terms of risk-taking, but in fostering deeper connections within our family. Our daughter’s mention of her friends’ curiosity about our polyamorous relationship prompts us to clarify: while our experiences do involve aspects of sexuality, this discussion transcends mere lifestyle choices and invites us to probe the courage it takes to be vulnerable and authentic. 0:46 We’re not empty nesters. We’re open nesters. 11:10 What’s the value of courage and this season of your life? 21:03 Courage from Our Perspective 30:17 Hopes for the Future As we reflect on our individual journeys through different acts of our lives, we share profound insights about courage’s evolution over time—from bold moves in our youth to choosing growth and authenticity in our current stage. We unpack how the lessons learned from past decisions empower us to face our fears and embrace new challenges. This touches on the critical distinction between whimsical risk-taking and the true essence of courage: acknowledging fear and pressing forward regardless. An essential aspect of our dialogue is centered on the micro-courage found in everyday choices, alongside the grander acts that define our paths. We explore how our personal growth is mirrored in our relationships—not just with each other, but with our children and our extended families. Our commitments to communication, understanding fears, and taking calculated risks serve to reinforce the bonds that keep our family dynamic rich and supportive. Our conversation also touches upon the shadow side of courage—fear. We reflect on how we each grapple with our fears and the various methods we employ to address them. This includes using emotional awareness and communication to tackle uncertainties accompanying changes in our relationship and our lifestyle choices. An acknowledgment emerges that navigating through fear often requires the same courage we seek to showcase in our life choices, underscoring the complex interplay between vulnerability and strength. As we anticipate the opportunities and challenges of the year ahead, we recognize the importance of manifesting our dreams, both in personal goals and in creating resonance through our podcast. Our aspirations for the Open Nesters community include the development of a TV pilot that reflects our journey and the broader experiences of those embracing this stage of life. By openly sharing our trials and triumphs, we hope to inspire our audience to engage in their own acts of courage. In closing, this episode serves not only as a personal reflection but also as a collective invitation for our listeners to envision what courage looks like in their lives. We hope you resonate with our message of openness and the understanding that growth, whether through discomfort or joy, is a journey best undertaken with curiosity, compassion, and the unwavering support of those we love. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure Freedom of Expression Exploration and Fun Body Movement New circles of friends Deep love relationships
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    34 mins
  • Leaning in to Better Lives
    Dec 25 2025
    Leaning in to Better Lives with Alia & Hayden (Season 5 | Episode 218) [TESSA] In this compelling episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve deep into personal transformation, intergenerational healing, and the evolving dynamics of relationships in adulthood with guests Alia Stewart-Silver and Hayden. Both are navigating their unique journeys while pursuing a vision centered around eco-cultural regeneration and personal development. The discussion emphasizes the concept of “open nesting,” a mindset that cherishes the numerous possibilities that come with this dynamic life stage, rather than viewing it through the lens of emptiness. Alia shares her experiences, calling in from Lake Atitlan, Guatemala, where she is building her practice as a licensed psychotherapist. She reflects on her upbringing in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, describing a nurturing environment fostered by her parents, who consciously shielded her family from societal norms and media influence. This intentional upbringing allowed her to cultivate a deep sense of connection and love within her family, shaping her understanding of life, relationships, and ultimately, her vocation as a healer. Alia also candidly discusses the emotional turmoil that arose during her parents’ separation, illustrating how such endings can also give rise to profound insights and intergenerational healing. EPISODE TIME CODE 2:00 Meeting Alia and Hayden 12:51 Confronting Identity and Performance 18:28 Navigating Parental Relationships 25:04 The Impact of Generational Differences 36:51 Commitment to Individual Paths 39:08 Future Plans and Collaborative Projects Hayden is an experienced circle-holder and ceremonial guide. He is trained as a nature-based soul guide and permaculturalist. He is self-taught in ontological design processes, philosophy, primal movement, and evolutionary astrology. Hayden integrates these versatile modalities into his work as an evolutionary catalyst, striving to help root visionary ideas into tangible forms in service to the wellbeing of life and consciousness now and into the future. Alia tends the fertile intersection of individual healing, cultural development, and ecological stewardship. She weaves together the diverse threads of her background as a licensed therapist, restorative justice and anti-oppression cultural facilitator, permaculturalist, rites-of-passage guide, and poet. Alia has applied this breadth of experience to founding a thriving holistic therapy practice. Learn more about Alia’s work at Join the Seeds. And at Soul Rooted Healing Arts. Hayden shares his contrasting background in a more traditional American suburban setting. He recounts his upbringing in a conservative Christian home and the challenges he faced following his parents’ divorce at a young age. Through honesty and vulnerability, he discusses the pressures of adhering to societal expectations, particularly in sports, and the mental health struggles that emerged as he sought to carve his own identity amid these narratives. Both he and Alia discuss the importance of recognizing and feeling all emotions, including grief and anger, as essential components of personal growth. As the conversation unfolds, Alia and Hayden reveal how their paths converged during a ceremonial Vision Quest, a transformative experience that deepened their connection while allowing them to explore their personal journeys and collective vision for the future. Their partnership is rooted in mutual respect for each other’s individuality and a commitment to shared growth, focusing heavily on agreed-upon principles that prioritize personal sovereignty over enmeshment. Listeners gain insights into how they can foster healthier relationships with their own families and navigate the complexities of adulthood. Alia and Hayden emphasize the value of communication, mutual support, and recognizing the unique challenges faced by different generations. They encourage open dialogues around emotions and the importance of creating supportive spaces for one another to thrive. In the latter part of the episode, the couple shares their aspirations for the future, rooted in the establishment of educational centers focused on eco-cultural regeneration, where individuals can learn to live in harmony with the earth and each other. They provide listeners with resources and platforms to explore these concepts further, inviting the audience to become part of a transformative journey towards personal and collective healing. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the ...
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    44 mins
  • Reflect and Celebrate The Open Nesters 2025 (S5 | E217)
    Dec 18 2025
    Reflect and Celebrate The Open Nesters (S5 | E217) with Tessa and Amir In this episode, we celebrate completing five seasons of The Open Nesters Podcast, a platform dedicated to redefining the empty nester experience. We take a moment to reflect on our journey and the incredible community we’ve built around the concept of “open nesting.” Instead of viewing the empty nest as a void, we embrace it as an opportunity for growth, adventure, and deeper relationships. By keeping our hearts and minds open, we invite listeners to explore the diverse possibilities that come with this stage of life. EPISODE TIME CODE 3:53 Exploring Life in Act 3 4:05 Navigating Grief and Loss 6:43 Redefining Monogamy and Relationships 9:35 The Desire for Independence 11:06 Embracing Change and Downsizing 12:52 Intergenerational Friendships 14:07 Your Voice in Our Community Throughout the episode, we share a sampler of impactful moments from previous conversations that have shaped our understanding of living fully in Act 3. Each clip highlights the multitude of experiences that encapsulate the joys, challenges, and revelations of aging. We touch on essential topics such as navigating grief, redefining relationships, and exploring facets of sexuality and vitality as we grow older. Listeners will hear insights from past guests who discuss various aspects of life in this transitional phase, including the need to shed limiting identities, navigate loss and grief successfully, and embrace the fullness of love and connection. Each snippet provides inspiration, wisdom, and encouragement, fostering a sense of community that fosters growth and openness. We emphasize the importance of sharing our stories and learning from each other’s experiences. We delve into intriguing discussions about intimacy, identity, and the courage to rewrite our life narratives. As we reflect on conversations about monogamy and the exploration of new definitions of love and sex, we encourage listeners to push boundaries and embrace their desires. We want to inspire everyone to take an active role in designing a life that resonates with their true selves, free from societal pressures and expectations. Finally, we provide a sneak peek into Season 6, where we will continue to explore these vital conversations and offer more excellent resources for building a fulfilling life in this chapter. As we close this episode, we encourage you to reach out, engage with us on social media, and join our growing community of open nesters. Your voice is essential to this journey, and we look forward to hearing your stories as we continue to grow together. Resources for You We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group ask to join and we’ll let you in
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    16 mins
  • Evolution Intimacy
    Dec 10 2025
    Evolution, Intimacy (S5 | E216) with Lara and Michael Blackin [TESSA] In this episode, I sit down with Lara and Michael Blackin, visionaries behind Temple in the Trees, a vibrant new community center located in Leesburg, Virginia. We delve deep into the philosophy of open nesting—a refreshing take on the empty nester experience, inviting listeners to redefine what this life stage can mean. The Blackins embrace a mindset of unfettered growth and exploration, highlighting how their mid-life journey has been full of new relationships, passions, and adventures. Evolution, Intimacy Lara and Michael share the inspiring story of how Temple in the Trees came to fruition after a transformational tantric workshop. It began with a simple note passed between them, leading to a shared vision of a sanctuary dedicated to community and tantric learning. Over eight years, their home has blossomed into a beacon for like-minded individuals eager to explore intimacy, connection, and personal growth. We discuss the significance of community collaboration and how their authenticity has attracted a diverse network of people eager to learn, share, and grow together. EPISODE TIME CODE 1:13 Temple in the Trees 6:34 Finding Community 16:42 Navigating Estrangement 23:18 Coping with Vision Loss 28:33 Intimacy Through Challenges 31:09 Transition from Parent to Participant As we dive deeper into their personal journeys, Lara and Michael reflect on their blended family dynamics, parenting six children—from a 27-year-old to a high school senior—while navigating the complexities of sibling relationships and individual identities. They candidly address the challenges of estrangement within their family, particularly the difficult path of one of their sons who has stepped away. Through this heartfelt discussion, we explore themes of grief, acceptance, and the importance of honoring one’s personal journey while also nurturing connections. The conversation takes a poignant turn as we cover Lara’s struggles with her eyesight, a significant challenge she is currently facing due to a growth affecting her optic nerve. She eloquently describes her journey of adapting to this new reality, finding strength and creativity as she navigates what it means to experience vision—both physically and intuitively. Michael shares his perspective, discussing how their relationship has deepened through these trials and the ways their intimacy has evolved, emphasizing the power of connection beyond traditional notions of physicality. We also touch on their recent move to New Orleans, where they are in the process of establishing a new branch of their community—Temple by the Water. Amidst the logistical challenges of a cross-town life, both Lara and Michael express excitement about laying down roots in a new city while continuing to foster their expansive community spirit. Their joint ambitions to host creative events and retreats speak to their commitment to artistic expression and personal development. In wrapping up our conversation, the Blackins impart invaluable insights for listeners navigating their own life transitions. They challenge the notion of identity solely tied to parenthood, advocating instead for an embrace of individualism and active participation in life. The underlying message promotes a sense of participation and connection, encouraging everyone to cultivate relationships that nourish self, community, and family. This episode encapsulates the complex layers of transition, poignancy, and resilience that define the open nester experience. By embracing both joy and grief alike, Lara and Michael exemplify how life transitions can serve as catalysts for deeper self-discovery and collective growth. Their story is a testament to the beauty of forging meaningful connections—one that resonates deeply with anyone looking to redefine their journey in the face of change. Resources for You We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group ask to join and we’ll let you in
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    43 mins
  • Thank and Grow Rich (S5 | E215)
    Dec 4 2025
    THANK AND GROW RICH (S5 | E215) with Pam Grout The book “Thank & Grow Rich” is for anyone interested in hooking up with the magnanimous energy field of the cosmos. Author Pam Grout, who likes to call herself the Warren Buffet of Happiness, says it all starts with getting on the frequency of joy and gratitude. Thank and Grow Rich [TESSA] In this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve deep into the transformative power of gratitude and personal growth through a heartfelt interview with Pam Grout, the author of “Thank and Grow Rich.” As we explore themes of aging, spirituality, and resilience, I share my own journey of embracing the concept of open nesting—a belief that life is an ongoing adventure filled with endless possibilities, even as we navigate the complex emotions associated with empty nests. EPISODE TIME CODE 6:33 Coping with Loss 13:23 Embracing the Bigger Picture 26:47 Nature and Relationships 33:56 The Role of Support in Grief 45:18 Meaningful Vacations and Travel 47:28 Reflections on Motherhood and Friendship Pam and I discuss her profound insights inspired by her own life experiences, particularly the tragic loss of her daughter Tasman. This pivotal moment has reshaped her perspective, prompting her to reframe loss into a journey of gratitude. We highlight the importance of acknowledging grief while also recognizing the richness of life connections. Pamela elaborates on how gratitude does not have to be a simple checklist but rather a complex embrace of life’s paradoxes, allowing for feelings of joy, exhaustion, and everything in between. The conversation shifts to practical applications of gratitude in daily life. Pam introduces us to her AA 2.0 program, a unique gratitude practice in which participants send texts sharing blessings each day—encouraging mindfulness and fostering community. This practice nurtures a heightened awareness of our surroundings and opens doors to unexpected joy, reinforcing that even in difficult times, there is much to be thankful for. Additionally, Pam sheds light on her work with the 222 Foundation, a charitable initiative honoring her daughter’s legacy by supporting projects that promote creativity and conscious living. She emphasizes the interconnectedness of human experiences and how supporting one another can lead to profound healing. Whether it’s through engaging in nature, nurturing friendships, or forming supportive groups, the importance of connection as we navigate this stage of life is underscored. As we wrap up this enriching conversation, we reflect on the lessons learned throughout Pam’s journey and the universal truths that connect us all. This episode invites listeners to embrace the idea of open nesting by seeking new adventures, nurturing relationships, and continuously expressing gratitude—a message that resonates deeply with anyone looking to find meaning and connection in life’s transitions. Resources for You We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group ask to join and we’ll let you in
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    54 mins
  • Give Thanks with Tessa and Amir
    Nov 25 2025
    This week, as we approach Thanksgiving, we address the complexities of family dynamics, expectations, and the importance of gratitude during this unique holiday. Give Thanks!
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    16 mins
  • The Permission to Desire with Dr. David Freeman (S5 | E213)
    Nov 20 2025
    With Dr. David Friedman we delve into the transformative journey of open nesting, vitality, spirituality, and sexuality, including BDSM.
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    50 mins