🎙️ “Back yourself. You can do it. Don’t doubt yourself because it’s not as hard as you think.”

In this episode, Paul Bishop shares how he went from auditing financial services during the 2008 crash to landing roles at British Airways, LabTech, and Telereal Trillium.

We discuss: ✅ Making the leap from audit to industry ✅ The skills that set newly qualified ACAs apart ✅ How to stand out in interviews and your first role ✅ Building a career in FP&A and finance business partnering

If you’re a newly qualified ACA (or soon-to-qualify), this episode is packed with practical insights, honest reflections, and career advice to help you navigate life beyond practice.

🎧 Listen now to hear how Paul navigated his journey and why he believes “the ACA gives you skills you can apply anywhere.”

🎙️ ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode of The Out of Practice Podcast, I sit down with Claire Delicata, a seasoned CFO and interim finance leader who's worked with iconic brands like Vodafone, Costa Coffee, British Gas, Farfetch, Superdry, and Legal & General.

Claire shares how she built an exceptional career across retail, tech, utilities, and telecoms, her unexpected journey into interim leadership, and what every newly qualified ACA should know before making their first move into industry.

🧠 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✅ The power of “career ownership” – and how not to drift after qualifying ✅ How to choose the right industry and company size early in your career ✅ What makes a CV stand out to a senior hiring manager ✅ Claire’s honest take on interim vs. permanent roles ✅ How to break into FP&A (and what to start learning now) ✅ Why AI should be your tool — not your threat ✅ The #1 underrated skill in finance (hint: it’s not Excel)

🕒 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Intro & Claire’s journey into audit 04:00 – Lessons learned at EY and why secondments matter 10:00 – Moving into industry (Vodafone, SuperSnaps & more) 13:00 – Favourite industries and how to break into new sectors 17:30 – Picking a career path with intention 22:00 – How Claire accidentally became an interim leader 28:00 – Interim vs. permanent: pros, cons, and perceptions 33:00 – Leadership, mindset & what changes as you move up 35:00 – How to break into FP&A from audit 37:00 – Career advice for newly qualified accountants 41:00 – What Claire looks for when hiring 43:30 – Thoughts on AI and the future of finance 45:30 – Quick-fire round & closing reflections

🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS

• Get your free CV template: www.onesevenpartners.co.uk/freecvtemplate • Are you soon-to-qualify or recently qualified ACA, looking to make a move out of practice? Then let's connect on LinkedIn, drop me a message and let's see how I can help!

🎙️ ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode of The Out of Practice Podcast, host Darren Spain speaks with Tom Williams, Group Finance Director at Trinova Real Estate and former Grant Thornton ACA, about career pivots, long-term thinking, and the truth about leaving audit.

Tom shares why he turned down the traditional partner track and how he navigated a career across transaction services, real estate, and eventually the FD seat. For newly qualified ACAs asking “What’s next after audit?”, this episode delivers clarity, honesty, and direction.

🧠 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

✅ Why audit experience is valuable - but not always enough ✅ What makes someone stand out post-ACA ✅ The real differences between audit and industry ✅ How to think long-term about your career (even early on) ✅ The commercial skills every ACA should start building now ✅ Tom’s take on job-hopping, recruiters, and learning through failure

🕒 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 – Intro: From audit to FD 02:00 – Why Tom chose the ACA and how it all started 05:45 – Why he left audit (and why he didn’t want to become a partner) 08:20 – Making the move into Transaction Services 12:30 – What audit doesn’t teach you about business 15:10 – Life in industry vs. practice 19:00 – How to build commercial awareness as a newly qualified 22:00 – Choosing long-term goals vs. reacting to short-term pressure 26:15 – Common mistakes newly qualifieds make when job hunting 30:20 – What makes a standout CV and candidate 34:00 – The importance of being intentional and learning fast 38:00 – Final advice for ACAs planning their first move out of practice

🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS

• Download the Free CV Template – www.onesevenpartners.co.uk/freecvtemplate • Follow Darren Spain on LinkedIn – @DarrenSpain