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The Payer Exchange

The Payer Exchange

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Unscripted conversations with the people shaping drug pricing, access, and reimbursement around the world.


Hosted by Omar Ali, Head of Payers at Verpora, The Payer Exchange brings you honest, off-the-record discussions with payers working at the frontline of healthcare funding. Each episode features a one-to-one conversation with a payer from a different country—exploring local challenges, emerging trends, and contrasting approaches to some of the biggest questions in market access.


From horizon scanning to contracting, rare disease to real-world evidence, we ask the same core questions—but get different answers every time.


This isn’t a panel. It’s not a pitch. It’s a rare chance to hear what really drives decision-making—direct from those making the decisions.

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Episodes
  • E10: Saudi Arabia - Abdulrazag Al-Jazairi
    Nov 28 2025

    In the final episode of the series, Omar speaks with Dr Abdulrazag Al-Jazairi, Advisor to the Saudi Food and Drug Authority, about the rapidly evolving payer and HTA environment in Saudi Arabia.

    They discuss what it means to develop payer infrastructure from the ground up, the influence of international frameworks on domestic decision-making, and how value-based agreements are beginning to play a role in national pricing strategy.

    Key themes:

    • HTA system development in Saudi Arabia
    • Local adaptation of international pricing logic
    • Role of VBAs in emerging access models


    About The Payer Exchange

    The Payer Exchange is a podcast where Omar Ali, Head of Payers at Verpora, sits down with payers from around the world to talk candidly about what’s shaping access, value, and decision-making in their markets.

    The series covers a range of consistent themes across markets—such as horizon scanning, indication-based pricing, rare diseases, and system sustainability—while also highlighting country-specific dynamics. By asking the same core questions in each conversation, the podcast reveals both common pressures and contrasting approaches across healthcare systems.

    The Payer Exchange is designed for professionals working in market access, pricing, policy, and strategy who want a deeper understanding of how payers are approaching the increasingly complex landscape of pharmaceutical innovation.

    Disclaimer

    This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, and is not intended as legal or policy advice. All content is based on non-confidential intelligence. Views expressed by the speakers are personal opinions and should not be attributed to anyone else. No part of this presentation may be reproduced for commercial purposes without the express permission of Omar Ali, Verpora Limited.

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    35 mins
  • E9: Belgium - Lieven Annemans
    Nov 27 2025

    Omar is joined by Professor Lieven Annemans, former chair of Belgium’s health economics advisory committee, to explore the complexities of European HTA policy.

    They talk about the role of Joint Clinical Assessment (JCA), the risk of over-assessment in policy design, and the challenge of maintaining local relevance within a harmonised EU framework. Lieven brings perspective on how the purpose of assessment is sometimes lost in the process of implementation.

    Key themes:

    • Joint Clinical Assessment (JCA) readiness and implications
    • Local vs EU-level HTA alignment
    • Over-assessment, duplication, and unintended bureaucracy


    About The Payer Exchange

    The Payer Exchange is a podcast where Omar Ali, Head of Payers at Verpora, sits down with payers from around the world to talk candidly about what’s shaping access, value, and decision-making in their markets.

    The series covers a range of consistent themes across markets—such as horizon scanning, indication-based pricing, rare diseases, and system sustainability—while also highlighting country-specific dynamics. By asking the same core questions in each conversation, the podcast reveals both common pressures and contrasting approaches across healthcare systems.

    The Payer Exchange is designed for professionals working in market access, pricing, policy, and strategy who want a deeper understanding of how payers are approaching the increasingly complex landscape of pharmaceutical innovation.

    Disclaimer

    This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, and is not intended as legal or policy advice. All content is based on non-confidential intelligence. Views expressed by the speakers are personal opinions and should not be attributed to anyone else. No part of this presentation may be reproduced for commercial purposes without the express permission of Omar Ali, Verpora Limited.

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    32 mins
  • E8: Canada - Don Husereau
    Nov 27 2025

    In this episode, Omar speaks with Canadian health economist and policy advisor Don Husereau about Canada’s unique payer landscape. Don isn’t your typical policy analyst. He’s worked in HTA, advised governments, and written widely about the gaps, flaws, and hidden logic in pricing systems like Canada’s.

    They discuss the decentralised nature of decision-making, the gap between evidence generation and clinical practice, and the disconnect between how healthcare science is developed versus how healthcare systems operate. Don shares his perspective on the pressures facing CADTH and how Canadian policy reflects a deeper tension between idealism and pragmatism.

    Key themes:

    • Decentralised payer environment in Canada
    • Evidence generation vs clinical practice
    • CADTH’s evolving role and MFN impact


    About The Payer Exchange

    The Payer Exchange is a podcast where Omar Ali, Head of Payers at Verpora, sits down with payers from around the world to talk candidly about what’s shaping access, value, and decision-making in their markets.

    The series covers a range of consistent themes across markets—such as horizon scanning, indication-based pricing, rare diseases, and system sustainability—while also highlighting country-specific dynamics. By asking the same core questions in each conversation, the podcast reveals both common pressures and contrasting approaches across healthcare systems.

    The Payer Exchange is designed for professionals working in market access, pricing, policy, and strategy who want a deeper understanding of how payers are approaching the increasingly complex landscape of pharmaceutical innovation.

    Disclaimer

    This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only, and is not intended as legal or policy advice. All content is based on non-confidential intelligence. Views expressed by the speakers are personal opinions and should not be attributed to anyone else. No part of this presentation may be reproduced for commercial purposes without the express permission of Omar Ali, Verpora Limited.

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    31 mins
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