Today on the People Planet Prosperity Podcast, Canada Action founder Cody Battershill and Lynn Exner, Chief Operating Officer of Canada Action are back again, this time to discuss the meaning of just transition and how it can be implemented. Together, they stress that as Canada takes climate action, the people in high emission industries, communities, and jobs should be kept at the very heart of the discussion and not left behind.

Cody and Lynn begin by defining what just transition is and isn't, and go back in time to the term's origin. They address the extremist position that just transition is about the end of oil and gas and advocate for people who live and work in high emitting industries to be kept at the forefront of the just transition discussion. They then zoom in on what the roadmap to transitioning to a lower emission economy ought to look like and who should be involved in developing and implementing just transition. Lynn stresses the need to educate people in high emitting industrial communities about how this is their chance to participate meaningfully in moving to a low carbon economy without seeing the end of the industry that allows them to thrive. Cody then discusses the need to exercise caution to ensure that just transition does not turn into unjust substitution. All in all, today our hosts encourage listeners, as resource workers and supporters of resource families, to step up and let their voices regarding just transition be heard. This episode was recorded on November 19th, 2021.

To learn more about supporting Canada's vital natural resource sector, please visit CanadaAction.ca.

Episode Highlights:

· The meaning and origin of just transition.

· A roadmap to transitioning to a lower emission economy.

· Who should be involved in developing and implementing just transition?

· The United Nations' alarming reports on climate change.

· The dependence on the natural resource sector and the affordable, reliable fuels we get from fossil fuels.

· How to ensure that as we take action on climate, we don't lose ground on good and decent jobs, access to clean, affordable, reliable energy, and everything impacting healthcare, education, and prosperity in a nation.

· The need for people to read the source documents themselves from the IPCC and United Nations to avoid deception.

· The focus of just transition on the worker and the communities.

· The transition off of thermal coal as an energy source in Canada.

· The Canadian government's failure in implementing best practices and recommendations in the just transition process for thermal coal as well as lessons learned

· Congress of Parties 24 and its goals.

· CCUS, as a pillar of NetZero and decarbonization, continues to support homegrown innovation and technology and the collaboration that's happening in Canada in the resource, oil, and gas space.

· Addressing the fallacy that just transition means to totally come off of oil and gas and fossil fuels.

· It is essential to educate people in high emitting industrial communities and encourage them to participate meaningfully in moving to a low carbon economy without seeing the end of their industry.

· Reaching out to communities and trying to counteract the drumbeat of negativity and doom regarding just transition.

· The workers in the community need to be at the heart of just transition.

· Figuring out the best ways to keep communities thriving and surviving while removing emissions.

· Avoiding unjust substitution.

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In today’s episode, our hosts, Cody Battershill and Lynn Exner, engage in a fascinating discussion regarding the involvement of Indigenous people in utilizing natural resources across Canada. Together, they clearly demonstrate that the consent of indigenous people and recognition of indigenous rights is vital not only to the economy but to the advancement of the country as a whole.

Cody and Lynn begin by diving into the involvement of First Nations in decisions surrounding natural resources in Canada and reviewing the perceived opposition of First Nations to large projects like the Trans Mountain Pipeline and The Coastal GasLink project. They go on to discuss the importance of finding a balance for all parties involved and the benefits of First Nations utilizing their resources. Our hosts also touch on the subject of consent and indigenous rights, shedding light on UNDRIP, FPIC, and the progress Canada has made in these matters. The episode concludes with their explanation as to why anti-development activists need to respect the decisions of First Nations concerning maximizing their resources and consenting to projects that will help all Canadians realize the highest possible quality of life and economic benefits. This episode was recorded on November 19th, 2021.

To learn more about supporting indigenous rights, please visit indigenousresourcenetwork.ca

Episode Highlights:

● Canada’s Trans Mountain Pipeline

● The impacts of large, linear projects on First Nations

● Finding the balance that benefits all parties

● The underlying reason for opposition to the Coastal GasLink project

● Discussing UNDRIP and Canada’s progress in including Indigenous Rights

● Dissecting Bill C-15, FPIC and the issue of consent from First Nations

● The importance of FPIC to all parties involved

● Examining the Ferry Creek protests

● Dissecting other case studies

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“The majority of indigenous communities from every province and territory in Canada have chosen to engage, ensuring they can benefit economically while safeguarding the ability of future generations to enjoy the land and traditional way of life.”

“We are recognizing that we do need to be consulting with First Nations on their land, and that is terrific.”

“Industry has actually done a tremendous job, and they've spent years and years in consultation, and in creating those benefits agreements.”

“A lot of really important concepts came out of the Trans Mountain project itself in terms of advancing indigenous rights, but also understanding the complexity of these issues.”

“When we maximize the value of our resources, that is just simply the smart thing to do. And it funds and it helps all Canadians realize the highest possible quality of life and economic benefits.”

“The job of government, whether it be a First Nations government, whether it be local, provincial or federal, is to try to balance those two sides and then come down with what's going to be most beneficial.”

“Canada actually has set the gold standard for inclusivity of indigenous rights.”

“I feel like what we talk about with regards to indigenous rights is the right to say ‘No’ to a project...but what I feel is getting left behind so often in this discussion is the right to say ‘Yes’, to using your resources.”

“Anti-development activists have long used the concept of some indigenous people being opposed to development as if they're synonymous, and they are not synonymous.”

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On today’s People Planet Prosperity Podcast, Cody and Lynn explore the polarizing question: ‘Are oil and gas dead?’ The fact is that the demand for oil and gas is growing, continuing to approach pre-pandemic levels and expected to continue past that, remaining a critical component of our lives for years to come. So we need to have a balanced, honest discussion about energy demand and how to ensure that global consumers can make responsible choices about the source of the natural gas and oil they’re using.

Cody and Lynn start their conversation by looking at the continued, rising demand for oil and gas, pointing out that the world will need access to all forms of energy for years to come. They discuss peak oil and what it’ll look like when the global market reaches that point, with Cody pointing out that technology has opened up new resources and pushed back the predictions for peak oil to between 2030 and 2050. He also asserts that when demand does peak, trillions of dollars of investment will be required to avoid shortages and a series of crises would emerge in their wake. Moving on, they talk about political policies and the complexity of the decisions that need to be made surrounding decisions on energy. They wrap things up by looking at Canada’s know-how and high standards in reducing emissions and how the country should be a leader in terms of investment and expertise in balanced forms of energy production in the future.

To learn more about supporting Canada's vital natural resource sector, please visit CanadaAction.ca.

Episode Highlights:

· The UN has just issued a report which gives a code red that the world needs to get off oil and gas as soon as possible.

· Even with the continued development of clean and renewable sources of energy, all forms of energy, including oil and gas, will be needed for years to come.

· Even if transportation demand does drop off, petrochemical demand is expected to increase due to our reliance on oil and gas to make plastics, even for seemingly gasoline-free products like electric cars.

· It is possible to continue to use oil and gas while still working towards net zero by utilizing technology to reduce our impact – an area Canada is leading in.

· The predictions for peak oil have been pushed back by ten to thirty years via the use of technology to open up new resources and new production.

· A massive amount of investment is required annually just to keep oil and gas supply flat – if new production isn’t continually added, supply will decline dramatically, leading to crises such as the Colonial Pipeline outage.

· Population growth, which is predicted to reach nine or even ten billion by 2040-50, means energy demand will continue to grow even if people make changes to their lifestyles.

· It’s important for Canada to invest in infrastructure and support for energy production, including clean energy, in order to avoid shortages and to end reliance on unreliable imported energy.

· Canada can reduce emissions, save money and increase its energy security by investing in energy production and allowing its citizens to make responsible choices about where they get their energy from.

· The world is going to require potentially fifteen to twenty trillion dollars of investment in oil and gas in the next thirty years.

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“We know that climate action is important, but there is no technological substitute for the vast uses and power density and energy density that is stored in a barrel of oil or in natural gas today.”

“There was a report a couple years ago that said, in 2040, if all new vehicles...