This is the fourth episode of Do Radio Series, Where To Next?, hosted by Dan Kieran.

Dan came to Realisation 2025 and, for this episode, spoke with Roc Sandford and Sarah Wilson, two of our speakers.

Dan writes: "This is an incredible event that takes place over three days at St Giles House, the home of the Earl of Shaftesbury. I was thrilled first to meet Roc, who lives off-grid on the island of Gometra off the coast of Mull, and then Sarah Wilson, the former editor of Cosmoplitan and presenter of Masterchef in Australia who writes the extraordinarily successful Substack, This is Precious."

Find Dan's Substack, Following The Stag, for more.

Handicrafts, including knitting, sewing, cross-stitching, as a form of activism?

Speaking with Mark Vernon, Sarah explains how this quiet, multi-sensory, and mindful approach to pressing matters helps gather thoughts and process feelings.

She will be speaking and offering a workshop at the Realisation Festival 2026.

Arising from her own story and activist work, Sarah also discusses the crucial important of a space for inner reflection and compassionate conversation. Craftivism offers a form that is useful tool to protest without fuelling polarisation or burnout.

What campaigns and cases has it impacted? How might it extend activism? Might this be an activism for the non-activist, as well?

For more on craftivism see https://www.craftivist-collective.com/

For more on the Realisation Festival 2026 see https://realisationfestival.com/

There is another world that is also here and it can empower people in times of trouble. Kim Willis tells Mark Vernon that she stepped outside, bringing her expertise in systems thinking and the value of stories, to discover resources in England, Wales and Scotland that modern culture often overlooks.

She describes her discoveries and their impact in her new book, "No Fair Maidens", and will bring that energy to the Realisation Festival 2026. What difference can an imaginative encounter with enchantment bring? How do stories that are close to us meet us and empower us? Why do they much matter in a time when people are searching for positive ways of living? There are living myths waiting for our return to them!

For more on Kim’s book and work see - https://www.kim-willis.com/

For more on the Realisation Festival, including tickets, see - https://realisationfestival.com/