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The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins

The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins

Written by: Paul Jenkins
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Throughout the years, I've come to believe two truths: one, everyone leads someone, and two, no one really feels qualified to lead anyone. Add the pressure put on us by culture to have all the answers in a world full of confusion, and you've got a recipe for reluctant leaders.

Thankfully, when it comes to leading in the Bible and in life, the most qualified aren't always the most obvious. This podcast is a conversation for all of us who want to lead well but never feel like we are. New episodes are released on the 2nd and 4th Tuesdays of each month.

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Episodes
  • TRLP 080 - Vulnerability vs Oversharing
    Oct 13 2026

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    Part five of the "Strength in the Cracks" series — exploring vulnerability in leadership as a place of God's power, not human weakness.

    Episode Summary

    Being "real" from the stage can go wrong — and Paul's been on the wrong side of that line himself. In this episode, he draws a clear distinction between vulnerability and oversharing: vulnerability serves the listener, oversharing serves the speaker. From there, he walks through how to tell the difference in real time, why vulnerability from the stage should usually be processed somewhere smaller first, and three practical questions to ask before sharing something publicly.

    What We Cover

    • The simple test: vulnerability serves the listener, oversharing serves the speaker
    • Why your congregation, staff, or kids can't be your primary source of emotional processing
    • The difference between vulnerability that's been metabolized first and oversharing as raw, real-time processing
    • Three questions to ask before sharing something vulnerable publicly
    • Why "the crack in the armor is the opening, not the leak" only holds true when the hard work happens somewhere smaller first

    This Week's Challenge

    Before sharing something vulnerable publicly, ask: Who is this for? Have I processed this somewhere smaller first? If nobody responds the way I need them to, am I still okay? If the last answer is no, it's not ready for the stage yet.

    Quotable Moments

    • "Vulnerability serves the listener. Oversharing serves the speaker."
    • "Oversharing is raw processing happening in real time, in public, with people who didn't consent to be your processing partners."
    • "That's not failure — that's wisdom."

    Coming Up Next

    The series finale — Paul tells his own story of a season where vulnerability wasn't a choice he got to plan.

    About the Series

    Strength in the Cracks is a mini-series exploring how pastors and leaders can experience vulnerability not as a liability to manage, but as a place where God's power shows up most clearly — drawn from Paul's ongoing D.Min. research in Spiritual Formation and Relational Neuroscience.

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    6 mins
  • TRLP 079: Letting Our Identity Inform Our Activity
    Sep 22 2026

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    Part four of the "Strength in the Cracks" series — exploring vulnerability in leadership as a place of God's power, not human weakness.

    Episode Summary

    If a bad week can quietly shrink your sense of who you are, whose identity are you actually operating from? In this episode, Paul turns the corner from diagnosis to formation, unpacking the principle "identity informs activity" — using Jesus's baptism and wilderness temptation to show what it looks like to lead from a settled, beloved identity instead of a performed one, and why that shift is what actually makes vulnerability possible.

    What We Cover

    • Why most of us let activity build our identity, instead of the other way around
    • Jesus's baptism — belovedness declared before any ministry activity happens
    • How the wilderness temptations are really one temptation: perform your way into an identity instead of resting in one already given
    • Why you can't afford to be vulnerable if your identity depends on approval of your performance
    • A practical shift: naming "I'm not walking in here to become beloved, I'm walking in here beloved" before a hard moment

    Scripture Referenced

    • Matthew 3:17 (and parallels) — "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"
    • Matthew 4:1-11 — The wilderness temptations following Jesus's baptism

    The Challenge

    Before walking into something that usually makes you perform — a hard conversation, a sermon, a dreaded meeting — pause and remind yourself: "I'm not walking in here to become beloved. I'm walking in here beloved. Whatever happens in this room doesn't get to decide that."

    Quotable Moments

    • "If your sense of being a good leader only exists on the other side of performance, you will never stop performing."
    • "Vulnerability stops being a threat. It's just honesty. It's just what a settled person sounds like when they talk."
    • "Identity first. Activity second. Always in that order."

    About the Series

    Strength in the Cracks is a mini-series exploring how pastors and leaders can experience vulnerability not as a liability to manage, but as a place where God's power shows up most clearly — drawn from Paul's ongoing D.Min. research in Spiritual Formation and Relational Neuroscience.


    ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

    Thanks for listening to The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins! Find me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, and be sure to read the stuff I'm writing on my blog.

    Rather watch the video? Head over to The Reluctant Leader Podcast on my YouTube channel.

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    6 mins
  • TRLP 078: What Your Brain Does When You Fake Strength
    Sep 8 2026

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    Part three of the "Strength in the Cracks" series — exploring vulnerability in leadership as a place of God's power, not human weakness.

    Episode Summary

    That feeling right before you walk into a hard meeting or step on stage and consciously arrange your face, posture, and tone — it's not just a mental trick. In this episode, Paul draws on his doctoral research in relational neuroscience to explain what's actually happening in a leader's nervous system when they perform strength instead of being known, and why that cost is physical, not just spiritual.

    What We Cover

    • Why "managing perception" registers in the body as a low-grade threat state
    • Co-regulation: what happens physiologically when we're genuinely safe with another person — and why pastors who are always the "steady one" rarely get to receive it
    • Shame vs. grace at the physiological level — how shame shuts the body down and safety opens it back up
    • How this connects to "identity informs activity" — a settled, beloved identity means the body isn't burning fuel managing a threat that isn't real
    • The real cost of armored leadership: exhaustion that shows up in marriage, friendships, and a leader's own stillness with God

    This Week's Challenge

    Pick one moment — a meeting, a conversation, a moment in a sermon — and instead of managing how you're perceived, just be present. Notice the difference in your body when you do.

    Quotable Moments

    • "You're pouring out a resource you're never getting refilled."
    • "The armored version of leadership isn't just spiritually costly. It is physically, literally exhausting."
    • "Your body isn't burning fuel managing a threat that isn't real."

    Coming Up Next

    Episode 4 turns the corner from diagnosis to formation — what it actually looks like to lead from belovedness instead of performance.

    About the Series

    Strength in the Cracks is a mini-series exploring how pastors and leaders can experience vulnerability not as a liability to manage, but as a place where God's power shows up most clearly — drawn from Paul's ongoing D.Min. research in Spiritual Formation and Relational Neuroscience.


    ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

    Thanks for listening to The Reluctant Leader Podcast with Paul Jenkins! Find me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, and be sure to read the stuff I'm writing on my blog.

    Rather watch the video? Head over to The Reluctant Leader Podcast on my YouTube channel.

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    6 mins
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