People don’t talk like we do, or have the stances we have—certainly not in spiritual circles. For those who agree and resonate with us, it’s a breath of fresh air. We know that, and it’s why we do what we do.

But every once in a while, we get someone (or a group of someones) who just can’t help but hate us.

Sometimes, it’s behind our backs. Other times, it’s to our face or scattered across our various comments sections.

Here’s how we’re navigating the latest wave of people hatewatching our content—and this time, it’s

not people from the Internet.

In November, we spent a month in Maine for Miriam to study under a famous potter's sole apprentice. It truly felt like a once in a lifetime opportunity that we couldn't pass up.

Little did we know, not even a full week into the trip, everything would start to go wrong all at once.

In this almost 5 hour podcast, we share the full story and piece together some of our eventual takeaways:

Maybe there's nothing out there for us to find—no one to discover our talent, show us what to build, or how to build it.

Maybe the only thing that'll ever truly satisfy us is to double down on what we actually want to create in the world—to double down on The Second Paradigm.

That and more in this episode of The Second Paradigm Podcast.

An exploration of allegiances, the collective hivemind, and the odd reality of David being a channel while teaching and speaking on ideological independence, inner solidity, and free will.