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The Selling Podcast

The Selling Podcast

Written by: Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman
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Feeling stuck in a sales slump? Pipeline looking thinner than a supermodel on a juice cleanse? Want to grow your business faster than a startup funded by a lottery winner? Then buckle up, buttercup, because "The Selling Podcast" is your new obsession!


Join your seasoned (slightly graying but still very spry) sales pros, Mike and Scott, who collectively boast over 50 years of crushing quotas (and racking up enough airline and hotel points to live perpetually in a suite). They're not just here to drop wisdom; they're here to deliver a potent mix of "deep-ish thoughts and some truly mediocre advice" (their words, not ours... mostly) on everything from closing monster deals to navigating the wild ride of life.


Every week, prepare for unfiltered stories, battle-tested philosophies, hard-earned insights, and enough random tangents to keep you laughing – and learning! They even drag in some special guests (who usually offer the really deep insights, just between us) to elevate the conversation even further.


Whether you're a seasoned sales manager, a hungry rep grinding for commission, or just someone who wants to understand the human element of persuasion, Mike and Scott cut through the fluff with their signature blend of sharp sales strategies and hilarious banter.


Stop wishing for more sales, start getting them! Hit subscribe, join the conversation, and let Mike and Scott help you sell better, live better, and most of all... enjoy all of it!

2026 Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman
Careers Economics Management Management & Leadership Personal Success
Episodes
  • Frictionless Selling: Are You Making It Too Hard For Your Customers To Buy?
    Oct 14 2026
    Friction kills deals before price ever does. Scott and Enigo Montoya break down how to make selling feel so easy that customers actually want to buy—and why common sales process mistakes can quietly cost you revenue.What starts with a painfully relatable checkout experience turns into a practical conversation about the hidden blockers that make buyers walk away. From endless paperwork and overcomplicated forms to reps who have to “check with my manager” before every decision, Scott and Enigo explain how unnecessary steps drain momentum and trust.In this episode, you’ll learn:
    • Why Amazon-level convenience has reset customer expectations
    • How to simplify paperwork without cutting corners
    • Why empowering sales reps to make decisions can keep deals moving
    • How thoughtful upselling and bundling can make buying easier
    • Why discounts should reward loyalty and volume—not panic

    Scott and Enigo share examples from retail, medical sales, pest control, car buying, and more. They also explore why many reps hesitate to ask for the sale—and why friction may be the silent deal killer behind customers who simply disappear.If you want to improve the customer experience, streamline your sales process, and close more deals, this episode is for you.

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    32 mins
  • From Bodybuilding to the Boardroom: Steven Staines on the Sales Grind
    Oct 7 2026

    In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike (joined by a "special guest" playfully introduced as Enigo Montoya) sit down with Steven Staines, the Director of Sales Development at Pinnacle West Medical.

    The central theme of the episode revolves around a provocative statement: Sales isn't "hard." While the hosts acknowledge that sales can be complex, complicated, and exhausting, they contrast the mental load of sales with physically or emotionally grueling jobs. Steven puts this into sharp perspective by comparing the challenges of sales to the life of his wife, a neonatal ICU nurse, whose decisions literally hinge on whether a child lives or dies while working 24-hour shifts.

    The discussion then shifts to the fundamentals of sales success, heavily referencing the "Student of the Game Handbook." Steven emphasizes that effective selling is less about a rigid scientific recipe and more about an artful application of fundamentals:

    • Reconnaissance before selling: Understanding the clinic's pain points before walking in the door.
    • Showing up as a business partner: Offering solutions (like billing services or faster product delivery) that make the practice's life easier, rather than just "bag barfing" product information.
    • High Energy and Persistence: The critical need for resilience in the face of rejection and the willingness to put in the necessary activity numbers.
    • Training the Next Generation: Steven shares his insights on hiring hungry, tech-savvy college graduates and the importance of field-riding and role-playing to build their confidence in introducing themselves to strangers.

    Ultimately, the episode is a masterclass in developing the thick skin and high-energy mindset required to survive and thrive in a professional sales career.

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    32 mins
  • Why Your Current Sales Title is Holding You Back: From Sculptor to Sistine Chapel
    Sep 30 2026

    Feeling creatively stuck in your current role? Join Scott and the (self-proclaimed) "heartless" Mike on this week’s episode of The Selling Podcast as they dive into an unlikely masterclass on professional evolution: the life of Michelangelo.

    Forget everything you think you know about the Renaissance master. Mike, who admits he usually remains emotionally detached from art, shares why Michelangelo’s work—specifically the gut-wrenching Pietà—finally broke through his pragmatism.

    This episode isn’t a stuffy art history lecture. It’s a high-energy discussion on why defining yourself by a single, limiting label is the fastest way to kill your sales career. Michelangelo didn’t see himself as a painter; he was a sculptor, through and through. Yet, when the Pope "assigned" him the four-year, neck-breaking task of painting the Sistine Chapel, he didn't quit. He adapted. He committed. And he created one of the most defining masterpieces in human history as a "side hustle."

    Scott and Mike use this historical pivot to challenge salespeople everywhere. Are you limiting your potential by calling yourself "just a hunter," "a closer," or "a brochure-pusher"?

    In this episode, you’ll discover:

    • Why Your Title is a Trap: How self-limiting labels become self-fulfilling prophecies that stunt your professional growth.
    • The "Sistine Chapel" Syndrome: Why you must be willing to take on assignments outside your wheelhouse to discover your true genius.
    • Transferable Genius: How Scott went from door-to-door orthopedic sales to international consulting and financial planning by recognizing his adaptable skill set.
    • Evolution, Not Abandonment: The crucial difference between pivoting your skillset (like a sculptor learning to paint) and making a completely random career jump (like a sculptor becoming a fly fisherman).
    • The Long Game: How to view your career as a continual Renaissance, where your best work may not happen until the "second half."

    Whether you’re a sales newbie or a seasoned vet feeling bored, this episode of The Selling Podcast will light a fire under your professional stagnation. Tune in to learn how to channel your inner Renaissance man and realize that, like Michelangelo, your current skillset doesn’t have to define your future masterpiece.

    Don't take yourself too seriously, keep your eyes open for opportunities everywhere, and stop being a "stupid Raphael"—listen now!

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    29 mins
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