Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA about the dangers of confidently pontificating from a place of total ignorance. (Not that anyone does that. Ever.)

Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA about the dangers of confidently pontificating from a place of total ignorance. (Not that anyone does that. Ever.)

Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA about the dangers of confidently pontificating from a place of total ignorance. (Not that anyone does that. Ever.)