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What can Chrissy Teigen’s return to sobriety teach us about the moderation myth?

In this reflective episode of The Sober Butterfly Podcast, host Nadine Mulvina opens with a trending celebrity sobriety story and uses it to explore a truth many people discover privately: trying to “mindfully drink” after quitting often leads right back to why we stopped in the first place.

Nadine shares her perspective on relapse, moderation, and why sobriety ultimately feels better for mental clarity, emotional stability, and real joy.

Then, she takes listeners back to Season One (2022) for a special replay of an early Sober Butterfly episode with Keisha Scott from Done With Debauchery — one of the first sober creators Nadine connected with in real life and the woman who helped her host her very first sober girl meetup.

Together, Nadine and Keisha discuss well-known celebrities who have publicly shared their sobriety journeys, including:

• Samuel L. Jackson
• Jada Pinkett Smith
• Nicki Minaj
• Chrissy Teigen
• Naomi Campbell
• Bella Hadid

This episode is about more than celebrities — it’s about how seeing sober people can inspire you, but meeting sober people can change your life.

Whether you’re sober-curious, newly sober, or years into your alcohol-free journey, this conversation reminds you that sobriety is not about perfection — it’s about presence, honesty, and community.

🎧 In This Episode, You’ll Hear

• Why Chrissy Teigen’s relapse story is so relatable
• The truth about “mindful drinking” and moderation attempts
• How celebrity sobriety can inspire early recovery
• Nadine’s origin story of meeting her first sober internet friend
• The early days of The Sober Butterfly podcast
• Why sober community matters more than sober inspiration
• A replay of the 2022 “Sober Celebrities” episode with Keisha Scott

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsGEzG_vmaM

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If this episode resonated with you, send it to a friend who is questioning their relationship with alcohol. Your conversation might be the one that helps them start theirs.

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What do you replace drinking with?

For Tommie Runz, the answer was miles, discipline, honesty, and community.

In this powerful episode of The Sober Butterfly Podcast, host Nadine Mulvina sits down with Tommie Runz — a sober endurance athlete, father, podcast host, and community builder — to talk about what nine years of sobriety has taught him about living with intention and pushing toward your next level.

Tommie shares the pivotal moments that led him to Alcoholics Anonymous, why truth-telling was the real beginning of his recovery, and how long-distance running became a tool for healing, clarity, and purpose. Together, Nadine and Tommie explore the deep parallels between endurance running and long-term sobriety, the role of community in recovery, and how sharing your story can help others feel less alone.

This episode is especially meaningful for anyone in early sobriety wondering “what now?” — and for those years into recovery who are still discovering who they’re becoming.

You’ll hear about:

• Tommie’s turning point and early days in AA
• Why honesty is foundational in sobriety
• The mental and emotional parallels between running and recovery
• How fatherhood shaped the way he shows up in sobriety
• The importance of community, service, and visibility as a Black sober athlete
• Using storytelling and social media to support others on their journey
• How to find your “thing” after quitting alcohol

Whether you’re sober, sober-curious, or years into your recovery journey, this conversation will inspire you to build a life you don’t want to escape from.

🎥 This episode is also available to watch on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/NRQRIMyHLC0

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Instagram: @the.soberbutterfly

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In this episode of The Sober Butterfly Podcast, host Nadine Mulvina sits down with writer and traveler Melissa Rodway, author of The People You Meet: Luxury, Leeches, Love, and Lao Lao with a Host of Interesting Characters in Southeast Asia, for a thoughtful, story-driven conversation about how travel shapes identity, purpose, and connection.

This episode goes far beyond bucket lists and destinations. Nadine and Melissa explore the deeper, often unspoken layers of travel—how movement through the world changes us emotionally and spiritually, the people who leave lasting imprints on our lives, and the difference between simply taking a vacation and truly traveling with intention.

Melissa opens up about the realities of travel burnout, travel ego, and knowing when it’s time to come home. She shares how her relationship with travel has evolved with age, why purpose matters more than pace, and how adventure doesn’t disappear as we grow—it simply changes form. The conversation also touches on routine versus freedom, rest versus movement, and how travel can act as both a mirror and a teacher.

Listeners will also hear about unforgettable people Melissa has met on the road, powerful moments from her global travels, and a memorable trip to Jordan that left a lasting impact. Throughout the episode, travel is framed not as an escape, but as a tool for self-discovery, discernment, and deeper connection.

This episode is perfect for anyone who has ever felt changed by a trip, struggled with the tension between adventure and stability, or wondered what they’re really searching for when they book the ticket.

✨ In This Episode, We Discuss:

• How travel reshapes identity over time
• The people we meet on the road who stay with us long after the trip ends
• Travel ego, comparison, and letting go of “travel hierarchy”
• Recognizing travel burnout and knowing when it’s time to come home
• The difference between vacations and meaningful travel
• How purpose and priorities shift as we age
• Why adventure still matters—even when life changes
• The inspiration behind The People You Meet

📖 Melissa’s Book

You can find Melissa’s book here:
👉 The People You Meet: Luxury, Leeches, Love, and Lao Lao with a Host of Interesting Characters in Southeast Asia
https://www.amazon.com/People-You-Meet-Interesting-Characters-ebook/dp/B0F3V7NPW3

🎧 About The Sober Butterfly Podcast

The Sober Butterfly Podcast explores identity, connection, and what it looks like to rebuild a meaningful life after big change. Through honest solo episodes and thoughtful conversations, Nadine Mulvina invites listeners into nuanced discussions about growth, relationships, purpose, and becoming aligned—without needing to burn everything down.

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