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The Social Mobility Podcast

The Social Mobility Podcast

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The Social Mobility Podcast is a series of conversations with individuals who advocate for, work within or represent social mobility from a range of sectors, including education, business, charity and the media. Together with host Tunde Banjoko OBE, guests discuss the importance of advancing diversity and equality, and explore what can be done to address socio-economic inequality.© 2025 The Social Mobility Podcast Careers Economics Personal Success Social Sciences
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  • Malcolm Gomersall: “Social mobility is one of the fundamental issues in society”
    Sep 3 2025

    Malcolm Gomersall is Chief Executive Officer at Grant Thornton UK, where he has held a number of senior leadership positions - including Head of London Audit and Tax, and Head of People and Client Experience. He became Chief Operating Officer in 2019 before being elected CEO by the firm’s partners in 2024.

    In this episode, Malcolm reflects on how his own upbringing shaped his career, sharing candid stories - from changing his accent to being told to iron his shirts - and how these experiences fuelled his passion for social mobility.

    We hear about the work he and his team are leading at Grant Thornton to build a more diverse and equitable workforce, and why he believes big companies must look beyond academic achievement when seeking talent. Malcolm explains why a degree is no longer a prerequisite for success, and how he sees early intervention as the key to tackling barriers to social mobility.

    Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.

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    42 mins
  • Kerry Dryburgh: “Building skills for today and tomorrow”
    Jul 9 2025

    Kerry Dryburgh is bp’s EVP for People, Culture & Communications and the company’s chief human resources and communications officer.

    In this episode, Kerry shares her personal social mobility journey. From leaving school at sixteen, to becoming an architect of the employee experience at bp – influencing strategy, performance, culture, and transformation.

    Hear how her decision to take on an apprenticeship sparked a career that today influences people, programmes and policies in over 60 countries. And gain insights on how companies can help close the gap between potential and opportunity, while supporting the current and future workforce as they build skills for a lifetime.

    Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.

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    26 mins
  • Peter Scott: "Quality is about having the best people - that's synonymous with having a diverse, talented pool"
    Apr 8 2025

    Peter Scott is the Global Co-Managing Partner, and Managing Partner EMEA of law firm Norton Rose Fulbright. Peter joined the firm as a trainee solicitor in 1997, and became a partner 10 years later.

    He was a member of the City of London Socio-economic diversity taskforce, a group of 30 cross-sector leaders aiming to enhance socio-economic diversity at senior levels across the UK's financial and professional service sectors, and a judge of the Women and Diversity in Law Awards.

    Your host is Tunde Banjoko OBE, founder of Making The Leap.

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    37 mins
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