What if the key to better clients, higher retention, and less burnout behind the chair wasn’t more skill… but better alignment?

In this episode, Misty sits down with Kati Whitledge, founder of Maya and Host of Beyond The Technique Podcast, to talk about why who you work with matters just as much as what you do.

This conversation goes beyond marketing and tech. It’s about building a career you don’t want to escape from, attracting clients who respect you, and creating success that actually feels good.

If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who’s tired of feeling drained by your schedule — this episode will hit home.

In this episode of the Starting Messy Podcast, Misty sits down with Aryn Detres, founder of The Left Brain Group, to unpack the overconsumption problem in the hair industry—and why more education isn’t always the answer.

If you’re a hairstylist or salon owner who’s taken all the classes, saved all the screenshots, and still feels stuck… this episode is for you.

In this episode, Misty Jayne joins Jodie Brown, the host of the Hairstylist Rising Podcast to break down one of the most misunderstood topics in the beauty industry: the real difference between coaching, mentoring, education, and consulting and why more information isn’t always the answer.

This conversation is for hairstylists and salon owners who feel stuck despite being talented, booked out, and knowledgeable. We talk about why overlearning can become a form of avoidance, how fear and identity play a bigger role than skill gaps, and when it’s time to stop searching for answers and start looking inward.

In this episode, we cover:

1. Why having all the strategy doesn’t guarantee action
2. The difference between a coach, mentor, educator, and consultant
3. How coaching helps uncover the real reasons you’re stuck
4. Why confidence comes from action, not more classes
5. How people-pleasing, fear of being seen, and overthinking show up for stylists
6. When to hire a coach vs when education is actually the right move
7. What “Starting Messy” really means (and why your mess isn’t the problem)

If you’ve ever thought, “What’s wrong with me? Why can’t I just do the thing?” this episode will feel like someone finally turned the lights on.