What does autonomous IT really look like when you move beyond the slideware and start wiring systems together in the real world?

At Dynatrace Perform in Las Vegas, I sat down with Pablo Stern, EVP and GM of Technology Workflow Products at ServiceNow, to unpack exactly that. Pablo leads the teams focused on CIOs and CISOs, building the workflows and security products that sit at the heart of modern IT organizations. From service desks and command centers to risk and asset management, his remit is clear: enable AI to work for people, not the other way around.

We began with ServiceNow's deepening multi-year partnership with Dynatrace. While the announcement made headlines, Pablo was quick to point out that the real story starts with customers. This collaboration is rooted in a shared goal of helping joint customers reduce outages, improve SLA adherence, and shrink mean time to resolution. The vision of autonomous IT operations is not about hype. It is about connecting observability data with deterministic workflows so that insight can evolve into coordinated, system-level action.

Pablo walked me through the maturity curve he sees emerging. First came AI-powered insight, summarizing data and surfacing signals from noise. Then came task automation, drafting knowledge articles, paging teams, triggering predefined playbooks. The next step, and the one that excites him most, is orchestrated autonomy. That means stitching together skills, agents, and workflows into systems that can drive end-to-end outcomes. It is a journey measured in years, not months, and it depends as much on digitizing process and building trust as it does on technology.

We also explored root cause analysis, still one of the biggest time drains in IT. By combining Dynatrace's AI-driven observability with ServiceNow's workflow engine, enterprises can automate forensic steps, correlate events faster, and shorten the time spent on major incident bridges where teams debate ownership. Even incremental improvements in accuracy can save hours when incidents strike.

Trust, of course, remains central. Pablo was candid that full self-healing systems are still some distance away. What we will see first is relief automation, controlled failovers, scripted actions suggested by machines but approved by humans. Over time, as confidence grows and processes become fully digitized, the balance will shift.

Beyond the technology, a consistent theme ran through our conversation. Outcomes have not changed. Enterprises still want higher availability, faster resolution, better employee experiences. What is changing is the how. ServiceNow is reimagining its platform to deliver those outcomes at a much higher standard, not through incremental tweaks, but through rethinking workflows for an AI-first world.

From design partnerships with banks building pre-flight change checks, to internal teams acting as the toughest customers, this was a grounded, practical conversation about where autonomous operations are headed and what it will take to get there.

If you are a CIO, CISO, or IT leader wondering how to move from theory to execution, this episode offers a clear-eyed look behind the curtain.

How do you build enterprise software for the companies that keep the world turning, while also building a leadership culture where people can actually thrive?

In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I spoke with Kerrie Jordan, Group VP of Product Management at Epicor, about her journey from studying literature to helping shape cloud ERP strategy at a global software company serving more than 20,000 customers worldwide. Kerrie's story is a reminder that there is no single path into technology leadership. Sometimes the foundations are laid in unexpected places, through storytelling, creativity, and a deep curiosity about people.

Kerrie shares how her early career in product lifecycle management opened her eyes to the human side of software. Interviewing customers and writing case studies showed her that behind every system implementation is a personal story, a career milestone, or a business trying to survive and grow. That perspective still shapes how she approaches product and marketing today at Epicor, a company recently recognized as a Leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for Cloud ERP for Product-Centric Enterprises for the third consecutive year.

But this conversation goes far beyond market recognition. We talk openly about burnout, resilience, and the reality of leading through pressure. Kerrie reflects on the importance of protecting time, creating space to reconnect, and building a culture where empathy is practiced, not just discussed. Her view of leadership is grounded in communication, psychological safety, and being tough on problems rather than people.

Mentorship is another thread running throughout our discussion. Kerrie explains why powerful mentorship is not passive. It requires vulnerability, preparation, and a willingness to hear difficult advice. A single phrase from a mentor early in her career, "stick-to-itiveness," continues to shape how she approaches hard problems today.

We also explore the future of women in manufacturing and technology. Kerrie highlights the need for intentional change across education, early career development, and leadership visibility. She believes technology, particularly AI, can expand access, enable upskilling, and introduce flexibility that supports long-term career growth. At the same time, she makes a simple but powerful point. Women in tech want the same thing as anyone else: the space and autonomy to do their jobs well.

From customer co-innovation and community-driven product roadmaps to inclusive leadership under commercial pressure, this episode offers a candid look at what it really takes to lead in enterprise technology today.

If you are building products, leading teams, or questioning your own next career step, I think you will find something in Kerrie's story that resonates.