Episodes

  • 81. Persecution or Protest? The MAGA Pearl Clutching Continues

    81. Persecution or Protest? The MAGA Pearl Clutching Continues
    Jan 23 2026
    In this episode Tim Whittaker, and April Ajoy discuss the recent events surrounding ICE's actions in Minneapolis, the protest at City's Church, and the broader implications of Christian nationalism. They explore the dehumanization of immigrants, the narrative of Christian persecution, and the historical context of these issues. Chapters 06:54 Protest at City's Church and Christian Persecution Narrative 19:01 ICE's Role and Church Leadership 32:12 Historical Context of Christian Nationalism 49:04 The Complexity of Christian Identity and Politics 01:10:59 Final Thoughts and Community Engagement ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 37 mins
  • 80. How Teens Get Indoctrinated into Christian Nationalism

    80. How Teens Get Indoctrinated into Christian Nationalism
    Jan 20 2026
    In this special episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy delve into the Passion Conference, a significant event in the evangelical youth culture, which attracts thousands of young attendees each year. They discuss the emotional and spiritual impact these conferences have on participants, often leaving them feeling empowered and connected to a larger purpose. Chapters 02:14 The Emotional Impact of Youth Conferences 09:04 Rhetoric and Radicalization in Evangelical Spaces 12:48 Dissecting Cliff Connechtal's Statements 20:00 The Conflation of Faith and Politics ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • 79. Debunking Allie Beth Stuckey's ICE Propaganda

    79. Debunking Allie Beth Stuckey's ICE Propaganda
    Jan 16 2026
    In this episode, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy delve into the complex and often contentious topic of Christian nationalism, particularly in the context of recent events in Minneapolis involving an ICE agent and a protester named Renee Good. They discuss the troubling narratives propagated by right-wing commentators, specifically focusing on Ali Stuckey's interpretation of the incident. Chapters 06:46 Debating Ali Stuckey's Narrative 18:13 Renee Good's Perspective 30:52 Confronting Misinformation 49:01 The Role of Empathy in Christianity 01:05:03 Closing Thoughts and Community Resources ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • 78. Accidental Christian Smut? When Sermon Illustrations Go Too Far

    78. Accidental Christian Smut? When Sermon Illustrations Go Too Far
    Jan 13 2026
    In this special episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy bring a highlight from the past year that focuses on the romantic language often used in evangelical circles. Buckle up! ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    38 mins
  • 77. Trump Built This System: ICE Just Killed an American Citizen

    77. Trump Built This System: ICE Just Killed an American Citizen
    Jan 9 2026
    In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy discuss the recent tragic shooting of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis. They analyze the incident, the misinformation surrounding it, and the broader implications of state-sanctioned violence and Christian nationalism. Chapters 12:03 Analyzing the Shooting Incident 23:56 The Role of ICE and Law Enforcement 36:03 The Reaction from the Right 47:55 Weird Christian Behavior and Performative Faith ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 31 mins
  • 76. Hiding in Plain Sight: The Christian Extremism that Fueled January 6th

    76. Hiding in Plain Sight: The Christian Extremism that Fueled January 6th
    Jan 7 2026
    In this episode Tim Whittaker, April Ajoy, and special guest Matthew Taylor reflect on the January 6th insurrection, exploring its implications within the context of Christian nationalism and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). They discuss the core beliefs of the NAR, including their views on spiritual warfare and the mobilization of their followers leading up to the insurrection. Matthew's Substack | @Matthewdtaylor Matthew's Book | The Violent Take It by Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy Chapters 05:36 Understanding Christian Nationalism and the NAR 12:58 Core Beliefs of the New Apostolic Reformation 29:19 Mobilization Leading Up to January 6th 49:29 Cognitive Dissonance and Diverging Narratives ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • 75. Nick Shirley's Day Care Tale Fuels MAGA's Immigrant Hate

    75. Nick Shirley's Day Care Tale Fuels MAGA's Immigrant Hate
    Jan 2 2026
    In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy reflect on the New Year, discussing personal updates and the challenges of content creation. They delve into the Minnesota daycare controversy, examining claims of fraud and the narratives surrounding it. Chapters 08:35 The Minnesota Daycare Controversy 21:03 Investigating Claims of Fraud 34:31 The Power of Narrative and Storytelling 48:08 Empathy and Understanding in a Divided Society ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • 74. Inside the NAR: The Christian Zealots Behind the Trump Administration

    74. Inside the NAR: The Christian Zealots Behind the Trump Administration
    Dec 30 2025
    In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, specifically the New Apostolic Reformation. They discuss the historical context of Christianity, the misinterpretation of scripture, and the dangers of dogmatic beliefs that prioritize power over compassion. Chapters 05:32 The Concept of Babylon in Christianity 11:46 The Misinterpretation of Jesus' Teachings 17:34 The Call for Empathy and Inclusion 26:17 Conclusion and Call to Action 39:11 Jesus and Caesar: A New Perspective 44:07 Power Dynamics in Religious Interpretation 48:45 Religious Hypocrisy and Political Power 54:48 The Duality of Christianity: Power vs. Subversion 59:24 The Danger of Misusing Scripture 01:11:54 The Problem with Dogmatic Beliefs 01:16:16 Using the Bible for Liberation vs. Oppression ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    1 hr and 16 mins