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The War We See

The War We See

Written by: Hirah Azhar
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Hosted by historian Hirah Azhar, this podcast explores the fascinating story of war imagery, and how it has shaped public perceptions of conflict. Drawing on conversations with a wide range of guests - including researchers, curators/archivists, photojournalists, artists, and filmmakers - this podcast moves across time and media, unearthing the stories behind the images that have defined our understanding of war. The War We See offers a critical, urgent, and thought-provoking lens on the images that continue to shape scholarship and society. New episodes released every other Wednesday.Hirah Azhar World
Episodes
  • Artistic resistance and the visuality of aerial imperial violence …with David Birkin (Part Two)
    Feb 4 2026

    This episode is the second half of my fascinating conversation with David Birkin, artist, writer, and Senior Lecturer in Photography at the London College of Communication (University of the Arts London). In Part II, we discuss Visible Justice, the wonderful transdisciplinary network David and his colleague Max Houghton co-founded in 2018 at the University of the Arts London. The Visible Justice research hub brings together practitioners and thinkers from across art, activism, journalism, photography, film, writing, and human rights law who engage critically with the relationship between visual culture and social justice, creating spaces for collaboration beyond disciplinary boundaries.


    We also talk about David’s selected three images, drawn from his doctoral research as well more recent imagery that has resonated powerfully with him. As with the previous episode, the themes of imperial violence and visual resistance continue to dominate our conversation, with David’s unique and refreshing perspectives offering a powerfully hopeful conclusion to the discussion.


    Visible Justice: https://www.visible-justice.org

    David’s website: https://lnkd.in/eqavBv9Q

    Note: This conversation was recorded before the ceasefire in Gaza in October 2025. However, it is important to point out that the ceasefire has done very little to ease the suffering of Palestinians, which continues largely unabated and without accountability.

    Links to David’s selected photos:


    1. Photograph from the report of the damage done to the British Aerospace Hawk jet in 1996 by the Ploughshares Four (Seeds of Hope East Timor Ploughshares Group): https://for-peace.maydayrooms.org/seeds-of-hope-ploughshares/9/ (see full collection for more photographs).

    2. David’s Instagram post with the video of a US military aircraft taking off from Kabul Airport, August 2021: https://www.instagram.com/p/CSqN-Ylo98s/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

    3. Protesters demonstrate in support of 'Palestine Action', organised by the Defend Our Juries group, in front of the Mahatma Gandhi statue in London, July 5, 2025. Jeff Moore, AP: https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/people-take-part-in-a-protest-in-support-of-palestine-news-photo/2222966116

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Artistic resistance and the visuality of aerial imperial violence …with David Birkin (Part One)
    Jan 28 2026

    This is Part One of a very special two-part episode with David Birkin, artist, writer, Senior Lecturer in Photography at the London College of Communication (University of the Arts London) and currently, a Visiting Fellow in Art History at the University of Cambridge. David is known for a wide-ranging body of photography-led installations and large-scale visual performances that confront state violence and imperial power, while also enacting forms of creative resistance to them. In a conversation that is as emotionally resonant as it is captivating, we explore his practice and the questions that shape it: how images circulate power, how visual culture sustains imperial violence, and how art can intervene in these processes. We also discuss his ongoing doctoral research into histories of resistance and disarmament in the British imperial context — what he brilliantly describes as tracing “the history of the imperial through the lens of the aerial” — and consider its urgent relevance today, amid the genocide in Gaza and ongoing violence elsewhere in the world. David is a true creative, a very exciting scholar, and a committed advocate for social justice, whose work reminds us that images of war are never neutral and that visual representations of violence are always bound up with questions of power, responsibility, and justice.

    Part Two is out next week, featuring a discussion of David’s three selected images.

    David’s website: https://www.davidbirkin.net

    Notes

    1. This conversation was recorded before the ceasefire in Gaza in October 2025.

    2. David's selected images will be discussed in Part Two of this conversation, posted next week, so the images will be linked then.

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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • Agency and power in contemporary conflict imagery, photographing youth combatants in West Africa, and the Hetherington archives…with Katy Thornton
    Jan 7 2026

    This week, I’m joined by fellow Imperial War Museum (IWM) doctoral researcher Katy Thornton (King’s College London), whose research uses the photojournalist Tim Hetherington’s archives at the IWM to examine the fascinating power dynamics between photographers, their subjects, and contemporary culture. Using her own background as a youth worker and academic grounding as a sociologist, Katy explores the intricate relationship between the photographer and the photographed within the context of youth combatants in West Africa between 1989 and 2003. In this evocative and stimulating conversation, we discuss her incredibly nuanced approach to a deeply complex subject, Hetherington’s own remarkable legacy, and the importance of acknowledging the role that power, perception, and agency play in what the camera captures of war.

    Katy’s doctoral research: https://www.iwm.org.uk/research/doctoral-awards/students-alumni/katy-thornton


    Links to Katy’s selected photographs

    1. A LURD combatant, and member of the AA (Anti-Aircraft) brigade, in an exchange with his girlfriend during the LURD advance on the capital Monrovia. June 2003: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205738356

    2. The anti-Gaddafi uprising and Civil War in Libya, 2011: https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/contemporary-conflict/tim-hetherington

    3. Near the port of Greenville: A fisherman sails past one of the many shipwrecks scattered along Liberia's coastline. September 2005: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205738530

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    1 hr and 29 mins
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