When your brand explodes, the culture has questions: equity, ownership, and that tired “sellout” label. Melvin joins Rodney and Travis to unpack the difference between selling out and leveling up, the art of partnering without losing your soul, and how strategic capital can accelerate impact—and generational wealth.

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Gerry Lopez came to the U.S. as an infant, earned his way through GW and Harvard, and rewired industries at Starbucks and AMC—always measuring success by more than money. In this conversation, he shares the mindset behind career “chess moves,” the art of nurturing relationships, lessons from taking AMC public, and a grounded definition of wealth that starts with family, faith, and showing up.

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Forget the polished bios. In this solo episode, Rodney Williams strips it all back. Raised in a Jamaican-American household where his mom worked three jobs—nurse, hairdresser, daycare provider—and his dad fixed everything from cabinets to cars, Rodney learned early what hustle looked like. But building something lasting meant unlearning a lot too. From corporate life at Procter & Gamble to co-founding a fintech startup, Rodney shares the tough calls, the personal costs, and the moments of doubt most success stories skip. This is what it really looks like to bet on yourself—and keep going.

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