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Them Before Us Podcast

Them Before Us Podcast

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Join host Jennifer Friesen, Training Director at Them Before Us, along with the TBU team, as they cover politics, current events, and policy updates affecting children's rights. Featuring top experts in politics, bioethics, law, reproductive technology, research, and culture, this podcast equips listeners to defend children's rights in debates on legislation, family, and technology. With thought-provoking discussions and expert insights, the TBU Podcast is your go-to resource for advocating a child-centric approach in today's world.Them Before Us Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Them Before Us #105 | We Graded Every State and only ONE Got an A
    May 22 2026

    We just graded all 50 states on how well — or how badly — their laws protect children when it comes to parentage, surrogacy, donor conception, and marriage. Two-thirds of states got a C or below. One state got an A. In this episode, you'll meet the man whose state earned it — and the team that built the tool every family advocate in America needs right now.

    Go explore the Children's Rights Scorecard and find your state's grade at thembeforeus.comIN THIS EPISODENate Grasz — Executive Director of Nebraska Family Alliance, the largest Christian public policy organization in Nebraska. Nate led the passage of the First Freedom Act, one of the strongest religious freedom laws in the country, and has spent years successfully fighting to keep the words mother, father, husband, and wife in Nebraska's statutes — helping earn Nebraska the only A on the Children's Rights Scorecard.Learn more about Nebraska Family Alliance at nebraskafamilyalliance.org

    We also hear from Them Before Us founder Katy Faust and Engagement Director Patience Sunne on how the scorecard was built, what they found, and how you can use it to protect children in your state.

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    47 mins
  • Them Before Us #104 | Mothers and Fathers are NOT Interchangable w/ the TBU Staff
    May 8 2026

    It's a special Them Before Us staff takeover as the gang gets together, in Brady Bunch style boxes, to share favorite mom and dad moments. Then Jenn and Sam go through some of the amazing moms in the movies as we round out the end of our Greater Than week of celebrating moms.

    What's a favorite memory you have of your mom and dad?

    And if you think every child deserves the mom and dad they came from, join us at greaterthancampaign.com.

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    38 mins
  • Them Before Us #103 | Are Gen Z Men Having a "Crisis of Purpose"? | Micah Kunkle
    Apr 24 2026

    If you've caught Micah Kunkle debating "Progressive" ideas on Jubilee or other platforms, you already know he's the real deal.

    Micah joins the TBU podcast to talk debate strategy, why so many young men are drawn to "strong male" influencers pushing harmful ideas, and how we can engage Gen Z in the fight for children's rights.

    He's one of those rare voices who's both a rigorous thinker and genuinely kind in disagreement, there's a lot to learn just from watching him.

    📺 Find Micah:

    Youtube ⁨@micahkunkle⁩

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/micahkunkle/

    Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@micahkunkle

    And more about Maven: https://maventruth.com/

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    36 mins
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