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Therapists Rising Podcast

Therapists Rising Podcast

Written by: Dr. Hayley Kelly
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Welcome to the Therapists Rising Podcast, where we share real, raw, and behind-the-scenes stories and lessons from Therapists who are thinking outside the traditional clinical box and choosing to do things differently in their careers. I’m your host, Dr. Hayley Kelly, and I myself have made the journey from a very experienced, but burnt out and unhappy, Clinical Therapist - to a successful entrepreneur who runs a business she loves, is thriving financially, and working and living life on her own terms. Join me, and be inspired, as I speak with other Therapists who too are broadening their horizons, and experiencing more abundance, joy, and fulfilment than ever before. Together we will laugh, soak up priceless wisdom and take actionable steps, to help you transition from clinical practice to non-clinical offerings, and diversify and amplify your income - all while honouring your wellbeing and having a work-life balance. If you’re ready to be inspired and take action on your dreams, then you’re in the right place, friend. This is the Therapists Rising Podcast.

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  • Before You Plan Anything in 2026, Answer This One Question
    Jan 8 2026

    Everyone's doing planning episodes right now. Goal-setting frameworks, vision boards, annual reviews - and those resources are great. But here's what I think most people are skipping: the single piece of clarity that actually makes planning work.

    I just came back from two weeks completely offline (forced digital detox courtesy of terrible cruise internet). And while I was offline, one question kept surfacing. Not "what do I need to do differently" or "what are my goals" - but something deeper that completely shifted how I'm approaching 2026.

    In this episode, I'm not giving you another planning framework. I'm giving you the clarity that makes planning obvious. Because without this foundation, you'll abandon your plan by February. With it, everything else falls into place.

    If you've ever set goals that looked good on paper but didn't stick, or found yourself circling the same idea without committing, this episode is for you.

    HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

    1️⃣ Planning Without Clarity Is Why Your Goals Keep Falling Apart – It's not a discipline problem or a commitment problem. When you plan based on what you think you should do (instead of what actually matters), the plans don't stick. Clarity isn't a nice-to-have. It's the foundation.

    2️⃣ Three Questions That Surface What's Actually There – Before you plan anything, sit with these: What keeps resurfacing for me? What am I no longer willing to carry into 2026? What am I waiting for permission to do? One of these will hit harder than the others. That's your entry point.

    3️⃣ Identity Drives Behaviour (Not Willpower) – We don't have commitment problems, we have identity problems. When you ask "Who do I need to become?" instead of "What do I need to do?", action becomes natural. Someone who "tries to build" versus someone who "is a builder" - same activity, completely different relationship to it.

    YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:

    • Why 2025 was one of my hardest years in business (and the breakthrough that came from it)
    • The identity question that changed everything while I was offline
    • How Chris Williamson's annual review process inspired this framework
    • Why therapists are especially good at waiting for permission (and how to stop)
    • The gap between who you are now and who you need to become (and why that's information, not judgment)
    • How clarity makes planning and decision-making obvious
    • Real examples of applying this to launching a beta, scaling your practice, and stepping back from clinical work

    RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    • Chris Williamson on Diary of a CEO – Annual review discussion

    Therapists Rising:

    • The Incubator: therapistsrising.com/incubator
    • Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly

    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

    If this episode gave you the clarity you needed before diving into planning - or helped you see the identity shift that's been waiting - please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts!

    Your reviews help more therapists find these conversations and build the businesses they actually want.

    Thanks for being here. See you next week.


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    38 mins
  • How to Go Into the Holidays Without the Pressure to Catch Up
    Dec 17 2025

    If you've ever headed into a break thinking "I'll finally catch up on everything," only to feel guilty the entire time—this episode is for you. Dr. Hayley Kelly breaks down why the pressure to be productive over holidays backfires, and gives you a practical framework to actually rest (or maintain minimal momentum) without the guilt.

    This is the final Therapists Rising episode before a two-week break, and it couldn't be more timely. For therapists in Australia staring down six weeks of school holidays—or anyone facing year-end break pressure—Hayley shares the exact decision-making tool that helps you choose between full rest or minimal maintenance, and actually feel good about your choice. No fluff, no "just be kind to yourself" advice. This is a teachable framework you can use immediately.

    HERE ARE THE KEY INSIGHTS:

    1️⃣ The Capacity Audit – Learn how to accurately assess what's actually available to you during a break (spoiler: it's about one-fifth of what you think). Hayley walks you through the exact questions to ask yourself about time, nervous system capacity, and competing demands—so you're working with reality, not fantasy.

    2️⃣ The Inertia Calculation – The framework for deciding whether to maintain minimal momentum or take full rest. You'll learn the specific criteria for each path, why there's no universal right answer, and how to make the choice that fits YOUR reality right now.

    3️⃣ Implementation Strategies – If you choose minimal maintenance: how to define your minimum, reality-check the time required (double your estimate!), match it to actual capacity, and set a ceiling so it doesn't creep into becoming your whole break. If you choose full rest: how to do a clean stop, set boundaries, and use the "That's for January-me" mantra.

    4️⃣ The Guilt Release Protocol – The missing piece that makes either choice actually work. Learn how to acknowledge guilt when it shows up (it will), return to your decision, and practice releasing pressure throughout the break—not as a one-time event, but as an ongoing practice.

    YOU'LL ALSO HEAR:

    • Why breaks don't expand capacity—they change it
    • The chronic underestimation problem therapists have with time and tasks
    • Why we overestimate available time and underestimate how long things take (recipe for self-loathing)
    • The timeline reality check: actual vs. fantasy timelines for building a business
    • How pressure sneaks in quietly and compounds over the break
    • Why rest is not falling behind—it's what makes everything else possible
    • What January looks like when you actually rest versus dragging guilt forward

    RESOURCES MENTIONED:

    Therapists Rising:

    • The Incubator: therapistsrising.com/incubator
    • Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly

    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

    If this episode gave you a framework to approach your break without pressure—or helped you give yourself permission to actually rest—please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your reviews help more therapists find these conversations.

    See you in the new year. Rest well.

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    35 mins
  • I Gave Up My Medical License to Say This Out Loud with Dr Julie Sladden
    Dec 10 2025

    If you've ever felt unsafe speaking up, shrunk your practice to avoid regulatory scrutiny, or wondered if the system designed to protect you is actually harming you—this conversation will validate everything you've been feeling but haven't said out loud.

    I'm speaking with Dr. Julie Sladden, a medical doctor, writer, and advocate who walked away from clinical practice, handed in her medical license, and became one of Australia's most vocal advocates for practitioner wellbeing and regulatory reform. You might know her from The Spectator, The Daily Declaration, and as co-founder of Australians for Science and Freedom.

    HERE ARE THE KEY INSIGHTS:

    1️⃣ The Public Protection Paradox – By silencing and harming doctors, regulatory bodies effectively harm the public. When practitioners are too afraid to speak or are strategically planning their exit from clinical work, patients lose. Workforce wellbeing isn't separate from patient care—it's the foundation of it.

    2️⃣ The Line in the Sand – Julie shares the moment she realized she couldn't stay silent. She had three choices: walk away quietly, continue practicing and hope she didn't get caught, or close her practice publicly and speak out. She chose the latter, despite the financial devastation (her family income halved overnight) and fear of regulatory retaliation.

    3️⃣ The Culture of Fear – We dive into how practitioners are shrinking their practices, deregistering entirely, and self-censoring out of fear. Julie shares why she ultimately surrendered her medical license—she realized AHPRA would likely come after her, and she didn't have capacity to fight that battle while doing advocacy work.

    4️⃣ Finding Your Tribe & Rebuilding Healthcare – Julie discusses the critical importance of community. After mandates were announced, she connected with 500 practitioners who were thinking the same way. She also shares her vision for a better system: grassroots health education, protecting social connections, and shifting from sick care to true preventative care.

    RESOURCES:
    * Australians for Science and Freedom: scienceandfreedom.org
    * The Collective Waitlist: therapistsrising.com/collective
    * Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly

    A NOTE FROM HAYLEY:

    This episode might be controversial. I knew that going in. But I believe we're at a point where the cost of silence is higher than the cost of speaking up. Practitioners are burnt out, shutting down, deregistering, and strategically planning their exits from clinical work. That's not a retention problem—that's a system problem.

    You don't have to agree with every position Julie holds. I don't either. But this conversation isn't about ideology. It's about the system we're all practicing inside, the weight it places on us, and what it costs to work within structures that often feel opaque, punitive, and misaligned with actual care.

    If even our most capable, thoughtful practitioners are planning their exit, something needs to change. And change starts with conversation.

    Thank you for listening with curiosity, compassion, and courage.


    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

    If this episode showed you what's possible when you give yourself permission to build differently—or inspired you to rethink what scaling could look like in your practice—please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts!

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    1 hr and 9 mins
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