Welcome to this special crossover episode from our other show, Going Off World.

In this episode, the hunt for alien life isn’t a sci-fi dream. It’s a patient, high-stakes investigation unfolding across labs, observatories, and space missions—and Sarah Seager is charting the course. We sit down with the MIT exoplanet pioneer to unpack how a field once defined by four puzzling worlds grew into a catalog of thousands, each challenging our assumptions about what planets can be and where life might take hold.

We trace Dr Sarah Seager’s path from early skepticism about hot Jupiters to leading-edge missions seeking signs of life in exoplanet atmospheres and even the acid clouds of Venus. The conversation blends technology, theory, and personal resilience to map the long road to finding another Earth.

If you care about exoplanets, biosignatures, Venus, and the future of discovery, this conversation is a guided tour of what it will take to spot another Earth and how that finding could reshape our place in the cosmos. If you enjoyed this episode, follow the show, share it with a friend who loves space, and leave a review to help more curious minds find us.

• how exoplanet science matured from four planets to thousands
• why hot Jupiters reshaped formation theories
• Kepler’s impact and TESS’s role in finding follow-up targets
• what biosignature gases are and why they matter
• starshade and direct imaging to see Earthlike worlds
• red dwarf habitability, tidal locking, and stellar flares
• Venus phosphine debate and sulfuric acid cloud chemistry
• realistic timelines, tech limits, and the long view
• career foundations, generalist leadership, and mentorship

Find her over at SarahSeager.com. She is also on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, and a bunch of other social media platforms. You can just search for her name, Sarah Seager.

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Emmanuel Daniel unpacks how digital finance prioritized monetization over true inclusion, then traces a larger shift from markets to networks where information compounds value. We test CBDCs, stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and ask whether debt has become the economy shaping tech, geopolitics, and personal wealth.

• VC‑driven digital finance and unmet inclusion claims
• Personalization versus centralization in money and platforms
• The ice trade analogy for financial inefficiency
• CBDCs stalling, stablecoins rising, tokenized deposits emerging
• China, India, and Africa leapfrogging legacy payments
• DeFi’s network logic versus TradFi’s market logic
• Debt as the economy and digitized sovereign liabilities
• 2035 outlook on tech advantage and investable nations
• History’s cycles informing finance futures
• Personal concerns about growing insularity and cross‑border work

Find Emmanuel’s work at emmanueldaniel.com. Think Forward Podcast: www.thinkforwardshow.com and on YouTube under ThinkForward Show

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What if the people best equipped to shape tomorrow aren’t engineers first—but emotional athletes? Our guest, Ahmed Best—actor, educator, Afrofuturist, and the pioneering performer behind Jar Jar Binks—shows how art can lead technology, not chase it. From South Bronx summers where hip‑hop was born to conversations with George Lucas at Lucasfilm, Ahmed traces a life lived at the edge of invention and explains why trusting artists to drive the tools changed cinema—and could change the future.

We dive into dramatic narrative design, the class he created to teach future‑fluent storytelling that centers collaboration over hierarchy. Ahmed breaks down how performance capture emerged by following the actor, how the “used future” aesthetic reframed sci‑fi, and why the fundamentals of drama never age even as mediums flip from film stock to digital sensors and now to AI. He sees today’s AI as a creative accelerator that removes costly bottlenecks so humans can spend more time on what matters: feeling, choosing, and crafting meaning.

Then we open up Afrofuturism through Afrohythms, the worldbuilding game he co‑created with Dr. Lonny Brooks. Using tension cards—“Black superheroes,” “James Baldwin,” and more—players define shared values, build planets, and practice radical imagination without the fear that keeps teams stuck. Ahmed challenges the industry’s obsession with “safe futures,” argues for protopia—incremental betterment we can actually feel—and points us toward the coming “bionexus,” where synthetic biology reshapes identity and possibility.

If you care about culture, technology, and where they meet, this conversation is a map and a spark. Subscribe to Think Forward, share this episode with a friend who loves bold ideas, and leave a review to tell us the protopian story you want to help build.

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Thank you for joining me on this ongoing journey into the future. Until next time, stay curious, and always think forward.