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Three Buddy Problem

Three Buddy Problem

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The Three Buddy Problem is a popular Security Conversations podcast that goes beyond industry talking points to discuss what others won’t -- nation-state malware, attribution, cyberwar, ethics, privacy, and the messy realities of securing computers and corporate networks. Hosted by three veteran security pros -- journalist Ryan Naraine and malware paleontologists Costin Raiu and Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade -- the weekly show attracts a highly engaged audience of security researchers, corporate defenders, CISOs, and policymakers. Connect with Ryan on Twitter (Open DMs).© 2026 The Naraine Group Politics & Government
Episodes
  • US Gov Takes the Wheel: Who Gets to Use the Best AI?
    Jun 29 2026

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    Three Buddy Problem - Episode 103: We dive into the U.S. government's takeover of frontier-model rollouts (Mythos, Fable, and OpenAI's Sol/Terra/Luna) and what it means when intelligence gets commoditized but access gets rationed.

    Plus, Costin's all-Chinese open-weight stack, the economics of burning tokens, a fresh Salesforce OAuth breach, and jellyfish UFOs over Iran.

    Cast: Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, Ryan Naraine and Costin Raiu.

    Timestamps:
    0:00 — Introductory banter, Thinkst Canary sponsorship
    2:55 — Why threat intel analysts are built for the AI moment
    11:09 — Government takes the wheel: Mythos, Fable & the frontier labs
    16:15 — Did the government go too far/not far enough?
    25:42 — Anthropic's "best PR campaign in history"
    31:52 — Alibaba, distillation & the model-router cartel
    40:58 — Costin's stack: Chinese open-weight models & token economics
    46:12 — Dumping, evals & the real work of AI engineering
    1:04:32 — Soft power: how the world gets pushed toward China
    1:14:43 — "The bullshit": over-refusal & the Opus 4.8 regression
    1:32:03 — The trillion-dollar IPO endgame
    1:35:49 — The Klue OAuth breach and secure-by-default
    1:45:32 — Shout-outs: UAP jellyfish, LABScon 2026

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    1 hr and 54 mins
  • Katie Moussouris on the Anthropic Export-Control Mess
    Jun 19 2026

    (Presented by TLPBLACK: A cybersecurity intelligence platform focused on sharing curated, high-sensitivity threat insights and research with trusted security professionals.)

    Three Buddy Problem - Episode 102: Software export controls expert Katie Moussouris joins the show to unpack the US government's abrupt move to suspend access to Anthropic's most powerful models over a so-called "jailbreak" that, on reading the paper, turned out to be a model doing exactly what defenders are supposed to do.

    We dig into the export-control chaos, the chemical-weapons framing of cybersecurity, the China question, and why Microsoft just resurrected a disclosure term the industry buried fifteen years ago.

    Cast: Katie Moussouris, Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade and Ryan Naraine. Costin is traveling.

    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Introductory banter
    1:00 - Export Controls: Fable 5 and Mythos 5 suspended
    3:40 - The Anthropic–USG relationship and USG’s surveillance claim
    9:40 - Self-owns, doomsday cults, and why the guardrails are "so broad"
    12:42 - What the Amazon paper actually says ("fix this code")
    20:33 - The chemical-weapons framing problem
    23:39 - The China question and the SK Telecom angle
    41:17 - Why hasn't the paper been published?
    57:01 - "Free Fable": are Chinese models only months behind?
    1:00:13 - The unforgiving internet and the security poverty line
    1:11:18 - Microsoft brings back "responsible disclosure" (and threatens researchers)
    1:29:04 - Luta Security, the AI bug flood, and shout-outs

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    1 hr and 38 mins
  • Mythos, Fable, and Anthropic's Big Trust Problem
    Jun 12 2026

    (Presented by TLPBLACK: A cybersecurity intelligence platform focused on sharing curated, high-sensitivity threat insights and research with trusted security professionals.)

    Three Buddy Problem - Episode 101: We discuss Anthropic's Mythos 5 and Claude Fable 5 release and the bombshell that the company was silently downgrading paid users' results, sparking a heated debate over guardrails, gatekeeping, and whether elite AI reasoning is becoming a privilege for the few.

    Plus, AI-generated N-day exploits killing the patch window, a record-shattering Patch Tuesday, Meta's latest court filing against spyware maker NSO Group, the return of cyber paleontology, and a detour into the new government UFO drops.

    Cast: Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, Ryan Naraine and Costin Raiu.

    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Introductory banter
    3:22 - The Mythos 5 / Claude Fable 5 release
    14:42 - Anthropic’s silent downgrade trust problem
    26:18 - Anti-competitive behavior & the AV "stealing detection" parallel
    32:29 - Distillation, China & the real motive
    38:04 - "Too dangerous to release" & gatekeeping vs. guardrailing
    45:53 - Is Mythos a threat to malware-analysis startups?
    48:20 - Dario's AI regulation essay
    56:48 - N-day exploits and death of the patch window
    1:07:18 - Patch Tuesday and 10x vulnerability surge
    1:10:34 - Meta catches NSO Group
    1:14:45 - Cyber paleontology, Shadow Brokers leaks
    1:28:29 - Moonlight Maze and learning from history
    1:34:22 - UFOs, UAPs and Disclosure Day

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    1 hr and 59 mins
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