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Trust vs.

Trust vs.

Written by: HITRUST Alliance
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Trust in cybersecurity is an ever-changing journey — hard to gain and easy to lose. Join us in the meaningful conversations that disrupt conventional thinking about trust in cybersecurity risk management — exploring disruptive technologies and proven approaches that create confidence. Each episode, we explore the challenges we share with industry experts and insiders, exploring the challenging questions questions about what it means to organizations to constantly improve the state of their security, how to tackle the inherent risks of AI while focusing on business value delivery, how risk transfer factors into a modern cyber risk management strategy, and more. For cybersecurity professionals, business leaders, and the companies that make up the digital delivery system we all share, if you’re facing these questions in your business, Trust vs. is for you. Brought to you by HITRUST.Copyright 2023 Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Cybercrime Has Gone Cartel
    Dec 18 2025

    Cybercrime isn’t just evolving, it’s industrializing. In this explosive season finale, Trust vs. is joined by one of cybersecurity’s most respected voices: Tom Kellermann, HITRUST’s new VP of Cyber Risk. Drawing on decades of experience advising the Secret Service, the World Bank, and the White House, Tom unpacks how today’s cyber cartels have outgrown narco-trafficking empires, how AI is transforming attacker tactics, and what the “axis of evil” looks like in cyberspace. From ransomware with backdoors to island-hopping attacks and the myth of hackers simply walking away, Tom explains why security needs to be dynamic, threat-informed, and elevated to the C-suite now.


    Meet Ryan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-patrick-3699117a/

    Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuval

    Meet Tom: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomkellermann/

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    29 mins
  • Hacking Back, Legal Limits, and the Future of Cybersecurity Regulation
    Nov 20 2025

    In this episode of Trust vs., cybersecurity law expert Cristin Flynn Goodwin joins the show to break down some of the most nuanced (and misunderstood) topics in cyber: active defense, regulation, and the legal implications of emerging tech like agentic AI. With over 17 years at Microsoft leading incident response and threat intel, Cristin shares what it really takes to disrupt nation-state actors, why “hacking back” is more emotional than practical, and how regulations like the EU Cyber Resilience Act are reshaping third-party risk. She also looks ahead to what may be the most complex challenge yet: governing AI agents in an identity-driven world.


    Meet Ryan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-patrick-3699117a/

    Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuval

    Meet Cristin: linkedin.com/in/cristin-flynn-goodwin-24359b4

    Cristin’s Podcast "Advancing Cyber": https://advancingcyber.com/

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    40 mins
  • When Your AI Has a Login and a Mind of Its Own
    Nov 6 2025

    Autonomous AI agents are no longer science fiction, they’re already reshaping how we work, build, and protect digital systems. In this episode, Jeremy Huval and Ryan Patrick are joined again by Richard Diver, Security and Identity Strategist at Microsoft, to break down what "agentic AI" really means and why it matters now. Richard unpacks the core building blocks of agent behavior (like entitlements, autonomy, and memory) and shares where the biggest risks lie as organizations rush to adopt agent-based systems. From identity sprawl to memory poisoning and the need for lifecycle management, this episode gives insights for security and GRC leaders who want to get ahead of the next wave of AI-driven innovation.


    Meet Ryan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-patrick-3699117a/

    Meet Jeremy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyhuval

    Meet Richard Diver: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rdiver/


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    38 mins
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