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Two Sides of the Spectrum

Two Sides of the Spectrum

Written by: Meg Ferrell
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A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in professional therapy practice. Visit learnplaythrive.com/podcast/2021 Learn Play Thrive, LLC Education Relationships Social Sciences
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  • Five Core Skills to Help Your Autistic Clients to Unmask for Life with Dr. Devon Price
    Feb 4 2026

    Dr. Devon Price’s work sits at the intersection of trauma-informed care and Autistic unmasking. In this interview, he walks us through five core practices for unmasking, and shares how to approach them thoughtfully with Autistic clients who have experienced trauma - which is most of the Autistic community.

    We explore practices such as learning your preferences and disentangling them from social norms, building resilience, cultivating distress tolerance, and shaping your life - both in big, structural ways and in the small, everyday details. A lot has been said about unmasking, but very few approaches hold the work with this level of care.

    Dr. Devon Price is a social psychologist, clinical associate professor at Loyola University Chicago, and an Autistic person. His books include Laziness Does Not Exist, Unlearning Shame, Unmasking Autism, and his newest release, Unmasking for Life.

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    46 mins
  • Showing Up in the Therapy Room With Our Whole Humanity: Art, Attunement, and Radical Care with Chenai Mupotsa Russell
    Jan 21 2026

    Learning from Chenai Mupotsa-Russell will absolutely transform you. Chenai doesn't just teach us how we can use art of every kind to support well-being for our clients, she also embodies everything she teaches — art, liberation, anti-colonial practice, and so much more. In today's conversation, we explore the role that art can play in our work as providers with concrete examples, and ideas, and stories from Chenai that you can use right away. Chenai Mupotsa-Russell is an art therapist, community builder, advocate, and PhD candidate in community psychology. Her research reimagines mental health through decolonial practice, collective care, and intersectional justice.

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    32 mins
  • How to Organize a Disability Pride Event in Your Town with Sara Zielinski
    Jan 7 2026

    Ableism is ingrained into our society, and many of us wonder what we can do about it. Occupational therapist Sara Zielinski decided that a huge celebration - centering disability pride - in her small town would be a great place to start. What happened next was transformative. In this episode Sara teaches us how to throw a disability pride event, why events like this matter, and how we can all be change agents in our workplaces and our communities.

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    34 mins
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