• 19 years on, is IPL still too big to fail? Sharda Ugra answers
    Apr 2 2026

    "This is our Frankenstein. We made it. And now it's left the room."

    A cricketer said this about the IPL and our guest, Sharda Ugra, India's most respected cricket journalist with thirty years of covering the game, brought it to our studio. And honestly, we couldn't think of a better way to open this episode.

    Last week, RCB and Rajasthan Royals sold for nearly $3 billion combined. With private equity in the building, it looks like the IPL has never looked bigger, richer or more untouchable. But something is off.


    The broadcaster paid $6 billion for rights and is bleeding $2 billion. On the other hand, the media rights that fund 80% of every franchise's revenue are projected to flatline and the most perfect advertiser IPL ever had, real money gaming, just got banned.


    So we did what any sensible person would do and called Sharda.


    In what was honestly one of the most electric studio sessions we've had on Two by Two, Sharda brought 18 years of institutional memory while Praveen Gopal Krishnan brought the business lens and Rahel Philipose asked every question you'd want to ask if you had Sharda across from you for 90 minutes.

    The IPL cannot fail. But can it figure out how to succeed? That's what this episode is really about.

    Read more:


    - Sharda's 2008 India Today piece titled 'Changing the rules'.

    - Sumit Chakraborty's piece in The Ken titled 'What private equity sees in IPL...'.
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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • Rapido broke the Uber-Ola duopoly. Can it now break the Swiggy-Zomato one?
    Mar 26 2026

    Last week, Rapido launched Ownly, its zero commission food delivery app and went straight for Swiggy and Zomato's throat.

    This is the same company that dismantled the Uber-Ola duopoly with just a simpler model, cheaper rides, and a very different idea of what India actually needs.

    Their weapon this time is zero commission. They're betting on restaurants that are fed up, customers who want cheaper food, and a rider fleet that's already in place.

    So we got Kunal Khattar, the investor who backed Rapido from day one and made 88x on that bet to break down whether lightning can strike twice. We also have Gautam Balijepalli, who runs one of the largest cloud kitchen operations in India and tells us what it looks like from the restaurant side.

    Along with our guests, Rahel Philipose and Praveen Gopal Krishnan discuss, can Rapido steal a bite from Swiggy and Zomato? Or is food delivery a completely different beast?
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    57 mins
  • The Middle East war will cost India. How much and for how long? Ft. Mohit Satyanand
    Mar 19 2026

    Last year, when Trump's tariffs blindsided the world, we called Mohit Satyanand. He made sense of the chaos before most people had even figured out what to panic about.


    This time, we didn't wait.


    A war broke out in the Middle East, the Strait of Hormuz closed, and within days India was rationing cooking gas, cancelling flights and watching the rupee slip. Everyone has an opinion, but Mohit has something rarer. He has his skin in the game. As an investor who has spent decades watching India's economy up close, his question isn't what happened. It is what it reveals about India's deepest, oldest vulnerabilities.

    He explains the oil dependency we've ignored for 50 years. How we have seven days of strategic reserves nobody talks about. The remittances that hold up millions of households. And the uncomfortable truth that none of this should have caught us off guard.

    In this episode of Two by Two, Mohit sits down with Rahel Philipose and Praveen Gopal Krishnan to answer not what is happening, but what it means for India and for how long.
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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Healthify swallowed its disruptors. But can it digest them?
    Mar 12 2026

    Most businesses die quietly. They miss a wave, lose relevance and fade out.

    Healthify nearly got hit by two in quick succession. First, AI that could do what took the company years to build. Then, a drug which meant you didn't need the discipline anymore.

    So Rahel Philipose and Praveen Gopal Krishnan asked Tushar Vashisht, Healthify's co-founder and CEO, the uncomfortable question directly: if anyone can build an AI coach and a drug can kill your appetite, what exactly are you selling?

    This episode is really about three things most people don't know.
    One, why people who take Ozempic without a lifestyle program gain almost all the weight back within a year.
    Two, what actually happens to a platform business when AI replaces one entire side of it.
    And three, why Tushar believes his most dangerous competitor hasn't been founded yet.

    We were also joined by Professor R Srinivasan from IIM Bangalore, who had a very different read on whether Healthify's bet is genius or cope.
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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • 2025 Year-end special
    Dec 25 2025


    2025 is done. Forty-eight episodes. Hundreds of guests. Endless banter between Rohin and Praveen.

    This year, Two by Two covered stories from Bengaluru to the world including business, tech, and everything in between. We didn't just stick to the usual. We asked about people, trends, and the things others weren't paying attention to. We brought on guests who didn't rehearse their answers and tried to make sense of things as they happened.

    Some episodes turned out to be prescient. Some were messy. Some sparked arguments in our inbox. All of them tried to do what we set out to do: spot hidden connections, ask unasked questions, and figure out what's really going on.

    This final episode is Rohin looking back at six moments from the year with clips from conversations that stood out. Between each one, he adds context and some behind-the-scenes perspective on why it mattered.

    Here are the episodes featured:

    1. Episode 26: Zomato, Swiggy, and the rise of the 10-minute "dark" café
    2. Episode 31: Airtel fights spammers. And Truecaller's business model
    3. Episode 47: Who broke Bengaluru, and how do we fix our cities?
    4. Episode 50: In an AI age, India does not have an open source strategy
    5. Episode 51: The invisible whale that capsized India's leaky options boats
    6. Episode 66: What will bring ambition back from the dead?

    To everyone who listened, argued with us, sent guest suggestions, or just stuck around, thank you. Next year, we're coming back with everything that makes Two by Two what it is, but bigger and better. Maybe even a few surprises. Stay tuned.

    There won't be an episode next Thursday. We will return on January 8th, 2026.

    See you in the new year.
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    55 mins
  • 60 seconds for every 2025 episode
    Dec 18 2025

    As we try to wind down this year, Rohin and Praveen do something they’ve never done before: go through every single episode they recorded this year. All 48 of them. In 60 minutes.

    The rules were simple. Each host had 10 points to build their personal top 10 list for the year. No take-backs, and no pre-discussion. It was a completely live, vibe-based recording where they figured it out as they went.

    What follows is a rapid-fire sprint through the year. From Amazon India’s struggles to the electric car slowdown, from B-school placements to the rise of quick commerce dark stores, and from Razorpay versus Juspay to the chaos of concert infrastructure in India. They cover it all—the hits, the misses, the prescient calls, and the episodes they wish had gone differently.

    Along the way, they debate whether episodes were too speculative, too early, or just not memorable enough. By the end, they’re locked in a tight race with only five episodes left and one point each remaining.

    Because it wouldn't be Two by Two without a matrix, we plotted the results of their debate. Take a look at the graphic to see which episodes they both loved (the green zone) versus their personal favourites.

    It is chaotic, nostalgic, and a perfect preview of what 2025 looked like through the lens of Two by Two.

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    This episode was produced by Uddantika Kashyap and mixed and mastered by Rajiv CN, our resident sound engineer.

    With 48 episodes in the books, this is the perfect starting point for anyone looking to catch up on the defining business stories of 2025. If you liked this sprint through the year, please share it with someone who loves a good deep dive.

    Have your own "vibe-based" arguments about our list? We’re all ears. Reach out at twobytwo@the-ken.com or leave a comment.

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    55 mins
  • Deepavali Break
    Oct 23 2025
    1 min
  • No Explainers, No Takeaways: One Year of Two by Two
    Jul 31 2025

    Join Rohin and Praveen as they celebrate the one-year anniversary of the 2x2 podcast, reflecting on 52 episodes of business and strategy discussions. This special ‘vibes’ episode looks back at their journey creating Two by Two, the evolution of the show, and future plans, deviating from their usual topic-focused format.

    Praveen shares key meta-narratives he picked from the past year, including a "desperation-driven convergence" where companies like Flipkart and Phonepe try to become each other. He also highlights themes such as the government shaping markets as a "competitor" or through "artificial constraints", and a "great career existential crisis" impacting roles from engineers to marketers. Other themes include the "destruction and retreat of big tech in India", the podcast's contrarian framing of topics, and a focus on India's "livability crisis", addressing issues like urban infrastructure and air pollution.

    We’d love to hear what you think about Two by Two as well. You can write to us at twobytwo@the-ken.com.

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    1 hr and 12 mins