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Uncertain Pathfinders

Uncertain Pathfinders

Written by: Jeffrey Schwab
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Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders or UP podcast, the show where we invite listeners to "Invite Uncertainty" and "Unlock Possibility." We all know that the only certainty in life is Uncertainty (with a capital "U"--let's give Uncertainty its due respect). On this show it's our goal to befriend Uncertainty and treat it with a positive growth mindset. Uncertainty could mean disaster....it could also mean opportunity. We will hear from individuals from all walks of life to learn more about how they approach Uncertainty, as well as hearing them share personal experiences of what the process of Uncertainty was for them in the moment. Let's Press Play Together!

🎙️ 歡迎來到（Uncertain Pathfinders，簡稱 UP）Podcast

這是一個邀請聽眾 「邀請不確定」 與 「解鎖新可能」 的節目。

我們都知道，人生唯一的確定，就是「不確定」。（既然如此，就讓我們給這個大寫的「不確定」應有的尊重。）

在這個節目中，我們的目標是與「不確定」交朋友，並以正向成長的心態去面對它。
因為不確定，也許意味著危機……但同時，它也可能代表著機會。

在這裡，你將聽到來自各行各業的真實聲音，分享他們如何面對「不確定」，以及他們在當下經歷這段過程時的心路歷程。

🎧 讓我們一起 Press Play！


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  • Uncertain Forever of Now （中文為主）

    Uncertain Forever of Now （中文為主）
    Jan 7 2026
    (English below) 在本集 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）Podcast 中，共同主持人 Jeffrey 與 Olof 邀請即興表演者、演出者、旅遊產業專業人士、抱石愛好者，同時也是戲劇治療學習者與引導者的 「J」 走進錄音室。 三人一同探索 不確定性（Uncertainty）、戲劇治療（Drama Therapy），以及如何透過故事、即興與遊戲，促進個人成長與自我理解。對話中也談及如何打破既有標籤、在舊有關係中嘗試新的開始，並透過一個個「微型人生實驗」，測試不同的可能性。 本集內容也深入討論：遊戲在理解情緒與內在狀態中的角色關係如何影響我們的成長與選擇透過搭便車（Hitchhiking）等經驗，展開自我探索之旅整段對話強調：擁抱不確定性，是通往可能性的道路；而真正的連結，存在於此時此刻——「當下的永遠（the forever of Now）」。 重點亮點與收穫（Highlights & Takeaways）不確定性為人生帶來新的可能與成長戲劇治療的力量，協助探索創傷與情緒遊戲是一種理解感受的強大工具搭便車作為人生不可預測旅程的隱喻真正的連結，發生在當下的此時此刻跨文化經驗有助於挑戰與鬆動既有成見章節（Chapters） 00:00 不確定性與可能性的開場 06:05 戲劇治療的探索與影響 12:29 遊戲在理解情緒中的角色 18:09 人生選擇中的不確定性 25:53 關係與個人成長的反思 28:35 關於愛與時間的思考 30:50 緊急應變與文化觀察 35:37 危機中的幸福感 44:21 自我探索的實驗 51:19 關係中的不確定性導航 相關連結（Links）Uncertain Pathfinders 官方網站小C的FB (Su Cecil)Formosa Improv Group（FIG）福爾摩沙即興組合Uncertain Pathfinders InstagramThe Hutong關於 David Read Johnson 與心理健康J 的LinkedinUncertain Pathfinders合作探索表感謝你收聽 Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast。 在這裡，我們邀請主持人、來賓與聽眾一起 擁抱不確定性，解鎖新可能。 歡迎與我們連結、走進錄音室，或與我們聯繫，了解 一對一生涯與人生教練，以及關於團隊合作、建設性衝突、擁抱不確定性的工作坊。 UP 的方法論結合了 Co-active Coaching、Lumina Spark、應用即興（Applied Improv）與非暴力溝通（NVC）。 歡迎在留言區寫下你的想法， 或來信至 📧 uncertainpathfinders@gmail.com Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments Show Introduction: In this episode of the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) podcast, co-hosts Jeffrey and Olof welcome fellow improviser, performer, travel industry professional, bouldering enthusiast, drama therapy student and facilitator, “J” to the studio. Together, all three of them explore the themes of Uncertainty, drama therapy, personal growth through storytelling and improvisation, as well as breaking stereotypes and testing new beginnings in old relationships through tiny life experiments. They discuss the role of play in understanding emotions, the impact of relationships on personal development, and the journey of self-discovery through experiences like hitchhiking. The conversation emphasizes the importance of embracing Uncertainty as a pathway to unlocking possibilities and highlights the beauty of the present moment, and the “forever of Now!” Highlights and takeaways include:Uncertainty leads to new possibilities and growth.The power of drama therapy helps to explore trauma and emotions.Play is a powerful tool for understanding feelings.Hitchhiking as a metaphor for life's unpredictable journey.The present moment is where true connection happens.Exploring different cultures challenges preconceived notions. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Uncertainty and Possibility 06:05 Exploring Drama Therapy and Its Impact 12:29 The Role of Play in Understanding Emotions 18:09 Navigating Uncertainty in Life Choices 25:53 Reflections on Relationships and Personal Growth 28:35 Reflections on Love and Time 30:50 Emergency Preparedness and Cultural Insights 35:37 Finding Happiness in Crisis 44:21 Experiments in Self-Discovery 51:19 Navigating Uncertainty in Relationships Links:Uncertain Pathfinders website小C’s FBFormosa Improv Group (FIG) 福爾摩沙即興組合Uncertain Pathfinders InstagramThe HutongAbout David Read Johnson and mental healthJ’s LinkedinPathfinders Connections (services and collaboration form) Thank you again for listening to the UP podcast, where we ask co-hosts, guests and listeners to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility. Welcome to connect with us, join us in the studio, or reach out to us for 1-1 career and life coaching or workshops related to team collaboration, constructive conflict, and embracing Uncertainty. UP uses methodology related to Co-active coaching, Lumina Spark, applied improv, and Nonviolent Communication (NVC). Please write us a ...
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  • Uncertain Reunions

    Uncertain Reunions
    Dec 23 2025
    Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) podcast, where we ask guests, hosts, and listeners to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility. On this episode, Jeffrey and guest co-host, Olof, invite Chairman and CEO of Pershing Technology Services Corporation (PTSC), Sean Chen, and AI Technical Manager, Karnan Gopalakrishnan to the studio. This invitation is a long-awaited reunion of sorts, as prior to starting UP, Jeffrey worked with both during his 5 year tenure as PTSC's Chief Learning Officer (CLO). In this engaging conversation, the hosts and guests explore the multifaceted nature of Uncertainty, particularly in the context of AI and personal experiences. They discuss the balance between structure and flexibility in professional settings, the emotional challenges of personal relationships, and the importance of embracing Uncertainty as a pathway to growth and innovation. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they highlight how Uncertainty can lead to unexpected opportunities and deeper connections with others. Episode highlights include:A.I. as a significant part of our past, present, and futureTemperature in relation to Uncertainty and codingTransitioning from single life to cohabitation with a partnerRunning a business while balancing structure, flexibility, and UncertaintyUncertainty prior to exiting the wombLeaving one's home country and finding a new home in abroadTraveling with animalsAging and family dynamicsWise words from Jeff Bezos Suggested links:Uncertain Pathfinders websiteKarnan's LinkedinPTSC's websiteLowCarbonPowerUncertain Pathfinders InstagramUncertain Pathfinders Service and Collaboration Request As always, we welcome any comments or questions. Please contact us if you would like to collaborate, or are seeking 1-1 coaching, or training for your team. UP offers career and life coaching, in addition to applied improv workshops, and workshops related to Nonviolent Communication. 🎙️ 歡迎收聽 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）Podcast， 在這裡，我們邀請來賓、主持人，以及正在收聽的你，一起擁抱不確定性，解鎖新可能。 在本集節目中，Jeffrey 與特別來賓共同主持人 Olof，邀請到 北祥科技服務股份有限公司（Pershing Technology Services Corporation, PTSC）董事長兼執行長 陳欽祥（Sean Chen），以及 AI 技術經理 高卡納Karnan Gopalakrishnan 一同來到錄音室。 這次的對談，也是一場久違的重逢。在創立 Uncertain Pathfinders 之前，Jeffrey 曾於 PTSC 擔任 首席學習長（Chief Learning Officer, CLO） 五年，並與 Sean 與 Karnan 共事。這次再度相聚，也為對話增添了更多層次與情感深度。 在這場充滿張力與溫度的對談中，主持人與來賓一同探索「不確定性」的多重樣貌——特別是在 AI 發展 與 個人生命經驗 的交會點。他們談到在專業環境中如何拿捏結構與彈性、在人際關係中的情緒挑戰，以及為什麼擁抱不確定性，往往是通往成長與創新的入口。 透過個人故事與深刻反思，來賓們分享了不確定性如何帶來意想不到的機會，也如何促成與他人之間更深層的連結。 🎧 本集重點包括：AI 作為我們的過去、現在與未來的一部分不確定性、溫度（temperature）與程式設計之間的關係從單身生活轉換到與伴侶同住的歷程在經營事業時，如何平衡結構、彈性與不確定性出生之前的不確定狀態離開家鄉、在異地建立新的「家」與動物一起旅行的經驗關於老化與家庭關係的思考來自 Jeff Bezos 的智慧之語🔗 相關連結：Uncertain Pathfinders 官方網站Karnan 的 LinkedInPTSC 官方網站LowCarbonPowerUncertain Pathfinders InstagramUncertain Pathfinders 服務與合作洽詢一如往常，我們非常歡迎你的回饋、想法與提問。 如果你有合作想法，或正在尋找 一對一教練、團隊培訓，歡迎與我們聯繫。 Uncertain Pathfinders 提供 職涯與人生教練服務，以及 應用即興（Applied Improv） 與 非暴力溝通（NVC） 相關工作坊，期待與你一起在不確定中前行。 Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments Powered by Firstory Hosting
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  • Uncertainty and わくわく (Waku Waku）

    Uncertainty and わくわく (Waku Waku）
    Dec 4 2025
    わくわくwaku waku：describes a warm, excited feeling of anticipation — the inner spark you feel when something new is about to happen. Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) podcast, the space where ask listeners, co-hosts, and guests to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibilities. Co-hosted by UP Founder and Chief Possibility Officer, Jeffrey Schwab, and polyglot, Miranda Wang, this is a podcast where we can always expect the unexpected. In this episode of the UP podcast, guest Yoko Reynolds explains the Japanese feeling of waku waku わくわく and how she relates it to Uncertainty. We learn more about Yoko and what brought her to start her own venture of Global Mom to Mom and Global Family to Family, two community events' initiatives that she organizes to promote English communication with moms and families through play and activities. Yoko talks about how Global Mom to Mom came to be, how it has grown, and how her family has a history of bringing international communities together. Yoko recently brought her family to Taipei as she took part in the International Polyglot Conference, a celebration of language and culture that took part in November of 2025. In this episode, we touch on the following topics: Yoko's initiative, "Global Mom to Mom," a community for Japanese and international families.The challenges and growth of raising bilingual children in Japan.The impact of COVID-19 on community activities and the shift to online gatherings.The cultural significance of snake skin as a good luck charm in Japan.Personal stories of Uncertainty and how they lead to growth and new opportunities.Future aspirations and the importance of travel and cultural exchange for children. Links related to this episode:Global Mom to MomGlobal Family to FamilyGlobal Mom to Mom and Global Family to Family IGUncertain Pathfinders websiteDihua Street and Longshan Temple Tours Polyglot Taipei Thanks again to our guest, Yoko Reynolds, for sharing her story. If you would like to share your story of Uncertainty with us, please reach out to us by connecting in the comments, or if you are looking for 1-1 career or life coaching, applied improv workshops for your team, or Nonviolent Communication (NVC) facilitation, please connect with us using this link here. Let's continue to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility! Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments わくわく waku waku：形容面對未知時，那份溫暖又期待的悸動——就像有新的可能正在悄悄展開。 歡迎來到 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）Podcast，在這裡，我們邀請聽眾、共同主持人與來賓一起 擁抱不確定，解鎖新可能。 由 UP 創辦人兼首席可能性官 Jeffrey Schwab，以及多語者 Miranda Wang 共同主持，UP Podcast 是一檔 你永遠可以期待「意料之外」 的節目。 在本集 UP Podcast 中，我們邀請到來賓 Yoko Reynolds，她分享了日文「わくわく waku waku」的感覺——以及她如何將這份悸動與「不確定性」連結。 我們也深入了解 Yoko 的故事：她如何創立 Global Mom to Mom 與 Global Family to Family，以遊戲、活動與互動，促進日本家庭與國際家庭之間的英文交流與文化連結。 此外，Yoko 分享了她的國際視野成長背景，以及她近期帶著家人來台北參加 International Polyglot Conference 2025（國際多語者大會）的一段旅程，這場活動於 2025 年 11 月在台北盛大舉行，是一場語言與文化的慶典。 本集關鍵主題包括：Yoko 的倡議「Global Mom to Mom」：一個為日本家庭與國際家庭打造的社群與交流空間在日本養育雙語孩子的挑戰與成長COVID-19 對社群活動的影響，以及轉型線上聚會的過程日本文化中「蛇皮」作為幸運護符的意義個人面對不確定的故事——如何帶來成長與新機會對未來的展望：孩子們的旅行、世界觀與文化交流的重要性再次感謝本集來賓 Yoko Reynolds 與我們分享她的故事。 如果你也想和我們分享你生命中的「不確定故事」，歡迎在留言區與我們聯繫。 此外，若你正在尋找 一對一的職涯或人生教練、為團隊設計的應用即興工作坊（Applied Improv），或是 非暴力溝通（NVC）引導，也歡迎透過以下連結與我們連結。 讓我們一起持續 邀請不確定性，解鎖更多可能性！ Powered by Firstory Hosting
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