Junko and Ben kick off 2026 by breaking down one of the year’s most intriguing new thrillers, “The Copenhagen Test.” They unpack the show’s high-concept premise, its unnerving relevance to our current moment, and what it means to see Simu Liu leading a modern espionage series as Alexander Hale.

Then, in a true dream-guest moment, Simu Liu himself joins the conversation to talk about stepping into the role, shaping Alexander’s identity, and why the series resonated so deeply with him. Along the way, Junko and Ben dig into representation, binge culture versus weekly releases, the evolving realities of Hollywood marketing, and what awards season conversations reveal about where the industry is headed.

From personal reflections to big-picture industry insights, this episode sets the tone for the year ahead and why “The Copenhagen Test” is worth your attention.

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On the 45th episode of United By Rice, Junko and Ben are joined by Lucy Liu and director Eric Lin in separate conversations to celebrate the release of the acclaimed new film "Rosemead." Inspired by a true story, the film takes an unflinching yet deeply empathetic look at mental health, family, and identity within the Asian American community. Eric Lin reflects on why the story resonated so personally with him, drawing parallels to his own family dynamics and his commitment to portraying its characters without judgment or sensationalism. Lucy Liu discusses her powerful turn in the film, a striking departure from her previous roles, and the responsibility she felt in portraying a mother navigating stigma, fear, and unconditional love. Together, the conversations unpack how "Rosemead" challenges long-held misconceptions around mental illness and violence, confronts the harmful narratives that surrounded the real-life events, and underscores the importance of nuanced Asian American representation in Hollywood.

Junko and Ben dive into a fun conversation with screenwriter Marilyn Fu as she discusses her latest film, "Rosemead," which explores themes of mental health and the immigrant experience. She reflects on her journey in the film industry, the significance of Lucy Liu's role, and the emotional depth of the story.

Marilyn also shares insights into her writing process, her upcoming project "The Copenhagen Test." The discussion highlights the importance of representation and the power of storytelling in addressing complex social issues.