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Us & Them

Us & Them

Written by: Trey Kay and WVPB
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We tell stories from the fault lines that separate Americans. Peabody Award-winning public radio producer Trey Kay listens to people on both sides of the divide.

Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Us & Them Encore: Our Foster Care Crisis
    May 28 2026

    Hundreds of thousands of kids rely on America’s foster care system. West Virginia has the highest rate of foster care placements of any state - four times the national average. Foster care is most often needed because of parental substance use, mental health challenges, poverty and neglect. Six-thousand Mountain State kids are in foster care, but there’s a shortage of licensed foster homes and residential facilities and that’s why nearly 400 kids live in out-of-state institutions. On this Us & Them, an encore episode finds more than half of all states have seen their number of licensed foster homes drop, some by as much as 60 percent because many new foster parents don’t stay in the system for long.


    While official foster care cases are tracked and overseen by state agencies, many types of so-called kinship care are not official or included in state data.

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    52 mins
  • Us & Them Encore: Heroin — N'ganga Dimitri
    May 15 2026

    Psychedelic drugs are getting attention from the Trump administration as treatment potentials for some mental health conditions. An executive order from President Trump fast tracks research and access to the drugs, which can carry health risks. On the latest episode of Us & Them, host Trey Kay checks back on someone who’s been using an illegal psychedelic called ibogaine to help people kick addictions. Ibogaine can alter brain functions and is used in some countries to treat depression, anxiety, PTSD and drug withdrawal symptoms. Twenty years ago most U.S. doctors wouldn’t touch the drug and politicians stayed away from it but now, the prospects for psychedelics in America may be changing.

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    38 mins
  • Us & Them: The Good, The Bad, And The American Revolution
    Apr 23 2026

    The 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence arrives at a moment when Americans are arguing not just about politics—but about our nation’s history. As President Donald Trump calls for the removal of what he labels “divisive” history from public institutions, a new documentary from Ken Burns revisits the American Revolution with all of its complexity, contradiction, and competing visions of freedom. In this episode of Us & Them, host Trey Kay brings together professors and students at Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia along with community members for a public conversation. There’s talk about what the revolution meant then, who it was for, and what it means now—at a time when questions about executive power, citizenship, and belonging feel anything but settled.

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    52 mins
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