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When Shift Happens Podcast

When Shift Happens Podcast

Written by: Kevin Follonier
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I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto. My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3. Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos. Thank you for watching.Kevin Follonier Economics Personal Finance
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  • E155: SUI Network Founder: We Built What Ethereum and Solana Can't
    Jan 22 2026

    Kostas Chalkias, co-founded Sui after leaving Facebook's Libra - and named his son Kryptos.

    While other blockchains compete on speed, Sui built what nobody else prioritized: quantum-safe cryptography, AI-ready infrastructure, and blocks large enough for robots.

    Governments and developers are quietly choosing Sui over Ethereum and Solana.


    THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER

    💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter

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    PARTNERS

    💰 Zashi is the easiest self-custody wallet for private transactions - send, receive, and spend Zcash (ZEC) without middlemen or surveillance, built by the team that launched Zcash in 2016.

    https://z.cash/ecosystem/zashi-wallet/

    🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/

    🅿️ Paradex is building the future of open finance — an intuitive, permissionless trading platform giving users full control, ultra-low costs, fast execution, and access to global markets in one place. Money Badgers Genesis NFT drops in Q4 — limited spots 👉 https://app.paradex.trade/wl/resilientrogueqv

    💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries: https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT

    🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.

    Buy with 10% off (promo code in video): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=1026f18ed46409e495c6db4bff90ab&offer_id=133&affiliate_id=35356

    🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/

    💧 Sui is a next-gen Layer 1 making digital asset ownership fast, private, and secure.

    https://sui.io/

    🧩 Story makes IP and real-world data programmable, enforceable, and monetizable.

    https://www.story.foundation

    ★ Forza!, Coinsilium’s Gibraltar-based Bitcoin treasury arm. Coinsilium trades on AQUIS (COIN) and OTCQB (CINGF). https://www.coinsilium.com/

    🔘 Mantle Network combines Ethereum-level security with low fees and fast transactions via its layer-2 tech. Stake ETH for mETH and join a transparent, community-governed ecosystem.

    Join the upcoming Mantle Hackathon: https://mantle.to/hackathon/a4t

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    CONNECT WITH KOSTAS

    Twitter: https://x.com/kostascrypto

    Twitter: https://x.com/Mysten_Labs

    Website: https://t.co/EufSM90Sd9

    FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS

    Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/

    Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/

    DISCLAIMER

    The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.


    0:00 Introduction

    1:32 Please Subscribe

    1:56 Going Outside

    3:26 Time Difference In Dubai vs U.S

    5:50 Why Kostas Doesn’t Sleep

    8:09 Isn’t It Annoying To Change This 8 Year Habit

    8:42 Did You Realize This Habit Wasn’t Healthy

    11:50 Our Trusted Partners

    12:26 Using Stable Coins Everywhere

    12:59 What Is A Cryptographer Explained To Your Mom

    15:18 How Secure Are WhatsApp Messages from Governments POVs

    28:20 Most Companies Lack Strong Cryptography Teams

    30:03 Do You See This Happening With Mysten, Growing To Big To Make Decisions Quickly

    33:00 Our Valued Sponsors

    43:46 What Is The One Big Breakthrough SUI Is Known For

    50:34 - Our Esteemed Supporters

    51:25 What Is SUI Doing At The Intersection Of AI, Crypto, And Robots

    59:26 Closing Remarks - Most Passionate Founder


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    1 hr and 1 min
  • E154: Bitcoin Suisse CEO: How to Build Generational Wealth in the Next 5 Years
    Jan 15 2026

    Andrej Majcen, CEO of Bitcoin Swiss, built a $6 billion crypto empire from $500 Bitcoin without VC funding.

    In this conversation, Andrej explains why we have a 5-year window to build generational wealth - and why Bitcoin, not crypto, is the answer.


    THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER

    💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter


    ___________


    PARTNERS

    💰 Zashi is the easiest self-custody wallet for private transactions - send, receive, and spend Zcash (ZEC) without middlemen or surveillance, built by the team that launched Zcash in 2016.

    https://z.cash/ecosystem/zashi-wallet/

    🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/

    🅿️ Paradex is building the future of open finance — an intuitive, permissionless trading platform giving users full control, ultra-low costs, fast execution, and access to global markets in one place. Money Badgers Genesis NFT drops in Q4 — limited spots 👉 https://app.paradex.trade/wl/resilientrogueqv

    💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries: https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT

    🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.

    Buy with 10% off (promo code in video): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=1026f18ed46409e495c6db4bff90ab&offer_id=133&affiliate_id=35356

    🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/

    💧 Sui is a next-gen Layer 1 making digital asset ownership fast, private, and secure.

    https://sui.io/

    ★ Coinsilium is a Gibraltar-based Bitcoin treasury arm. Coinsilium trades on AQUIS (COIN) and OTCQB (CINGF). https://www.coinsilium.com/

    🔘 Mantle Network combines Ethereum-level security with low fees and fast transactions via its layer-2 tech. Stake ETH for mETH and join a transparent, community-governed ecosystem.

    Join the upcoming Mantle Hackathon: https://mantle.to/hackathon/a4t

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    CONNECT WITH ANDREJ

    Twitter: https://x.com/AMajcen_BTCS

    Twitter: https://x.com/BitcoinSuisseAG

    FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS

    Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/

    DISCLAIMER

    The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.


    0:00 Introduction

    1:35 Please Subscribe

    2:01 Building A Good Work Environment & Being Critical

    5:05 Where Does This Hardworking Attitude Come From

    7:50 Viewpoint On Working Difficult Jobs At An Early Age

    10:57 Our Trusted Partners

    11:34 Who Are You

    12:24 How Andrej Became Fascinated By Crypto

    15:41 The Price Of Bitcoin When You Started

    19:16 Your View On The Crypto Space

    22:53 Your Answer To “Bitcoin Is Too Expensive”

    26:15 Why Andrej Owns Real Estate When Most People Are Against It

    31:24 Our Esteemed Supporters

    43:17 Bitcoin Suisse Explained To Your Mom

    49:37 What’s The Origin Behind The Name Bitcoin Suisse

    53:46 Our Valued Sponsors

    56:36 Comparing Investment Assets, S&P 500, Gold, Bitcoin

    1:04:36 Nicholas Story & Allocating Large Amounts Of Capital

    1:08:51 Why You Relocated To Abu Dhabi 2 Years Ago

    1:10:29 Why Abu Dhabi Specifically For This Objective

    1:15:34 What Makes Bitcoin Suisse Special

    1:16:13 Who Do You Serve & Not Serve

    1:17:19 Why You Don’t Serve Retail Anymore

    1:18:19 What’s Bitcoin Suisse’s Endgame

    1:19:55 Andrej’s Biggest Flaw

    1:22:12 One Thing People Should Remember


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    1 hr and 29 mins
  • E153: Kast Founder: Why Crypto Banking Will Be Bigger Than You Think
    Jan 8 2026

    Raags, CEO of Kast, lost a $100M company and spent 8 years paying back debt.

    Now he's building what he believes will be a trillion-dollar stablecoin bank serving 150+ countries.


    THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER

    💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter

    ___________


    PARTNERS

    💰 Zashi is the easiest self-custody wallet for private transactions - send, receive, and spend Zcash (ZEC) without middlemen or surveillance, built by the team that launched Zcash in 2016.

    https://z.cash/ecosystem/zashi-wallet/

    🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/

    🅿️ Paradex is building the future of open finance — an intuitive, permissionless trading platform giving users full control, ultra-low costs, fast execution, and access to global markets in one place. Money Badgers Genesis NFT drops in Q4 — limited spots 👉 https://app.paradex.trade/wl/resilientrogueqv

    💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries: ⁠https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT⁠

    🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.

    Buy with 10% off (promo code in video): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=1026f18ed46409e495c6db4bff90ab&offer_id=133&affiliate_id=35356

    🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/

    💧 Sui is a next-gen Layer 1 making digital asset ownership fast, private, and secure.

    https://sui.io/

    🧩 Story makes IP and real-world data programmable, enforceable, and monetizable.

    https://www.story.foundation

    ★ Forza!, Coinsilium’s Gibraltar-based Bitcoin treasury arm. Coinsilium trades on AQUIS (COIN) and OTCQB (CINGF). https://www.coinsilium.com/

    🔘 Mantle Network combines Ethereum-level security with low fees and fast transactions via its layer-2 tech. Stake ETH for mETH and join a transparent, community-governed ecosystem.

    Join the upcoming Mantle Hackathon: https://mantle.to/hackathon/a4t

    ___________

    CONNECT WITH RAAGS

    Twitter: https://x.com/raagulanpathy

    Twitter: https://x.com/kastxyz


    WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS

    Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/

    Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/


    DISCLAIMER

    The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.


    0:00 Managing A New Baby + Business How?

    1:32 How You Deal With Social Media & Gatherings

    4:44 The Math Of Compounding As A Founder Explained

    6:43 Getting Others To Understand Compounding At Scale

    7:22 How Much Time Goes Into This?

    8:39 Who Are You

    11:00 Our Valued Sponsors

    19:33 Eating The Humble Pie Explained

    21:16 The Importance Of Ego In Entrepreneurship

    23:46 Retweeting A Complaint Comment + Response

    26:59 How You Made Money After First Business Failure

    29:18 Why You’re Called The Stable Coin Guy

    31:30 Our Valued Sponsors

    31:47 Stable Coins Have Unified The Dollar System

    32:51 How Do You Look At The U.S Dollar vs Stable Coins

    35:47 What Did You See That Made You Start Kast

    39:06 Explain Kast To Your Mom

    42:11 Why Are You Building Kast With Over 100 Employees

    47:41 How Do You Simplify The Stable Coin Usage System

    49:33 Are You A Fintech Or Crypto Company

    50:48 How Likely Would Revolut Or Robinhood Replace Kast

    54:14 How Is It Possible For Kast To Be Profitable After 15 Months

    57:57 What Is It About The Gold Card

    1:02:03 How Can Someone Tell If They Should Spend Or Hold

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    1 hr and 11 mins
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