In this in-depth episode of You Don’t Have to Listen to Me, we explore Universal Basic Income from every angle: its origins, its evolution, its modern relevance, and the passionate debates surrounding it. We begin with a clear definition of UBI and break down the difference between full and partial basic income programs, examining how concepts like negative income tax, Social Security, and child welfare benefits relate to or differ from a universal approach.

From there, we take listeners on a historical journey—starting with ancient grain distributions in Egypt and Rome, through the political philosophies of Thomas More, Juan Luis Vives, and Thomas Paine, to the economic theories of Henry George and 20th-century advocates like Bertrand Russell and Milton Friedman. We highlight how changing economies, industrialization, and shifting social values shaped the conversation around guaranteed income long before UBI entered mainstream politics.

Fast-forward to the present, and we explore how automation, artificial intelligence, and post-industrial labor markets have revived interest in UBI as a response to technological displacement and economic inequality. We review modern pilot programs in places like Alaska, Stockton, Compton, and Tacoma, and discuss how COVID-19 stimulus payments brought elements of UBI into everyday life and shifted public opinion.

We then weigh the arguments on both sides—moral, economic, political, and practical. Supporters see UBI as a tool to eliminate poverty, simplify welfare systems, empower workers, and allow people to pursue education, entrepreneurship, and creative work without risking destitution. Critics raise substantive concerns about funding mechanisms, taxation, inflation, wealth flight, migration, and whether the U.S. political system could implement such a sweeping reform.

Finally, we reflect on the bigger philosophical questions UBI forces us to confront: What role should the state play in ensuring basic needs? How should wealth be distributed in a society with abundant resources? And as automation reshapes our labor landscape, do we need to rethink the relationship between work, survival, and human fulfillment?

Whether you’re curious about UBI, skeptical of it, or already advocating for it, this episode provides historical context, economic analysis, modern case studies, and thoughtful discussion to help you form your own conclusions. Join us as we unpack one of the most significant policy ideas of our time—and consider what a world with universal basic income might look like in practice.

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In this bonus rant, Jesse breaks down the shock announcement that Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene will resign her seat in January. While Greene is one of the most polarizing figures in American politics, Jesse takes a different angle: examining why, despite her many faults, she was one of the few members of Congress who actually represented her district exactly as her voters intended.

Jesse explores the uncommon parts of Greene’s political profile—her lack of corporate donors, her willingness to confront foreign lobbying groups, her advocacy for releasing the Epstein files alongside survivors, and her surprisingly defiant positions on healthcare costs, foreign military funding, and the war in Gaza. He argues that, unlike most establishment politicians, Greene wasn’t controlled by big donors, corporate money, or party machines—she simply reflected the values (however controversial) of the people who elected her.

The rant closes with a reflection on what genuine political representation should be, why “bought” politicians fail their voters, and the disappointing reality that Greene—someone who was at least authentic in her convictions—chose to resign rather than finish her term. Whether you loved her, hated her, or both, Jesse lays out why her departure says more about Congress than it does about Greene herself.

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In this episode, Jesse and Chris kick off with the surprising election wins across the country—most notably Zoran Mamdani in New York and Katie Wilson in Seattle. Chris explains what made Mamdani’s grassroots, Bernie-inspired campaign unique: relentless street outreach, a crystal-clear economic agenda, and an authenticity that brought him from 1% name recognition to a decisive mayoral victory. Jesse adds nuance by breaking down campaign financing, the aggressive smear campaigns Mamdani faced, and how deeply flawed opponents like Cuomo and Adams made his win both expected and remarkable.

From there, the conversation shifts into a deep critique of the Democratic Party establishment and the failures of “moderate” governance. The two explore Obama’s legacy—particularly Obamacare—as an example of well-packaged policy that ultimately enriched insurance companies without fixing structural healthcare problems. They broaden the discussion to capitalism itself, debating whether essential needs like healthcare, housing, water, and groceries can function in a profit-driven market. The pair examine Mamdani and Wilson’s proposals on rent freezes, public grocery options, and anti-monopoly policy, weighing how each might help or unintentionally harm small businesses and low-income communities.

Finally, Jesse and Chris turn toward Seattle’s mayoral shift, analyzing why Katie Wilson’s win may be even more politically meaningful than Mamdani’s. They contrast Wilson’s affordability-focused agenda with former mayor Bruce Harrell’s wealthy-donor-friendly priorities, reflecting on how elite Seattleites often signal progressive values while voting to protect their own interests. The episode closes with a broader discussion of where progressive politics should go next—building local power, expanding progressive representation in Congress, and avoiding the trap of putting all hopes into presidential primaries.

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