In this episode of the You Gotta Hack That podcast, the conversation continues with Emily, a principal industrial cyber security consultant, as they delve into the real-world threats facing operational technology (OT) environments. The discussion highlights the inadequacies of traditional IT penetration testing when applied to OT networks, emphasizing the need for tailored approaches that consider the unique vulnerabilities and operational realities of these systems. Emily and Felix explore the concept of dwell time, illustrating how sophisticated attackers can remain undetected within networks for extended periods, gathering intelligence before launching attacks. They stress the importance of understanding actual risks and the necessity of continuous monitoring and testing to ensure robust cyber security measures are in place.

In this episode of You Gotta Hack That, Felix sits down with Emily, a principal industrial cyber security consultant and former national utility cyber lead, to demystify ISA/IEC 62443. Why do so many teams treat it like a silver bullet and why does that backfire fast? Emily breaks down what 62443 actually is (spoiler: it’s a family of standards), why “be compliant” isn’t a requirement, and why maintenance matters as much as deployment. If you’re trying to secure OT environments, this one will help you focus on what to do first.

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In this episode, Felix and Alex discuss the alarming rise of phone thefts in London, sharing personal anecdotes and insights into the implications of losing a device. They explore security measures, user behaviors, and the broader impact of identity theft in today's digital age. The conversation emphasizes the importance of enhancing phone security and being proactive in protecting personal information.