A guy listened to 500 episodes of Alan's podcast and changed nothing. That is when Alan told his co-host their show sucked.

Alan Lazaros has published an episode every single day for nine years with Kevin Palmieri on Next Level University. Zero revenue in 2017. $452,000 in 2025. A 25 person team. And his read on why most founder podcasts go nowhere is not the one you expect.

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3 THINGS YOU CAN DO AFTER THIS EPISODE

1. Make every episode point at one next thing. Alan's show promotes whatever is coming up next. Pick the one thing you want people to do this month and point every episode at it until it is done.

2. Name the one step between your episode and your paid offer. Alan has free layers, then a paywall, then programs, then one on one. Each layer invites people one step deeper. Most founder podcasts jump straight from episode to book a call, and that gap is where the business dies.

3. Say out loud who your show is not for. Alan tells listeners on air that if they want big rewards for minimal effort, his show is not for them. 30,000 followers turn into 39 clients, on purpose.

He walks through the business model behind it. Social media is the mall. The podcast is your store. 30,000 people at the top, 39 one on one clients at the bottom, and every layer built to add value and invite people one step deeper. The podcast sits at the top and feeds everything, and everything feeds it back. Then he gets blunt about the part founders avoid. Knowledge is not power. Behavior change is. Your podcast has a constraint right now and you are probably not looking for it.

In this episode:
- Passion, purpose, profit, and why doing them out of order kills shows
- Nine years of real revenue numbers, stated on air
- How 30,000 followers becomes 39 clients, on purpose
- Why being for everyone means being for no one
- The 500 episode listener who proved the show wasn't working
- The compounding math on never missing a day
- Prep, rep, reflect, perfect, and finding where your show sucks

About the guest, Alan Lazaros:
Co-founder and co-host of Next Level University with Kevin Palmieri. Former computer engineer turned business, peak performance and fitness coach. Roughly 2,500 daily episodes, 39 one on one clients, over 7,286 coaching sessions logged. He also runs the Next Level Hope Foundation for kids of single parents.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanlazarosllc/
Website: https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/
YouTube, Next Level University: https://www.youtube.com/@NextLevelUniversity

Alan's whole answer is get a little better every episode and never miss. That falls apart fast when you are the one editing, cutting the clips, writing the descriptions, chasing the guests, and posting all of it. Stop that now. That is not your job. You're supposed to be working on the business. The podcast is supposed to feed the business. You record, we handle the rest.
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This has been the Founder Podcast Lab. See you in the next episode.