We heard Paul Hopkinson’s case. Now Dane Giraud has a response.

Dane joins Shubz to challenge arguments made in our Free Palestine Party interview. He gives his perspective on Zionism, antisemitism and Jewish self-determination, explains his support for a two-state solution and questions what was missing from the conversation.

Cassandra Lee joins from Australia for a frank yarn about politics, immigration, Palestinian flag protests and why her views don’t fit neatly into one political camp. We also talk about her upbringing across Australia, Austria and New Zealand, and what brought her into online commentary.

Then Conservative Party candidate Paul Deacon shares his journey from international banking to standing for Parliament. He explains why the COVID years changed his political loyalties, what he believes his experience offers and why he wants voters to look beyond the established parties.

Plus, your comments, questions and the usual back-and-forth with Shubz.

CHAPTERS

0:00 Show opening and politics

2:33 Conversations with callers

9:46 Audience interactions

23:54 Cassandra Lee — Australian politics, immigration and identity

51:20 Dane Giraud — Zionism and responding to Paul Hopkinson

1:20:37 Paul Deacon — banking, politics and the Conservative Party

Shubz Says So | Episode 119

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