Don Brash says two ticks National could cost the centre-right the election. So what’s his alternative?

Don returns to explain his split-vote argument, why he disagrees with John Key’s position and what it could mean for National’s list MPs. We also get into retirement, staying sharp and why he’s uncomfortable with New Zealand getting closer to the United States.

Before that, longtime activist John Minto joins Shubz to discuss the journey from anti-apartheid campaigning to Palestinian solidarity. We question him on October 7, the killing of civilians, a two-state solution and the campaign calling on voters to demand sanctions against Israel.

NZ First MP David Wilson shares his story from running a surf shop to Parliament, including reconnecting with his birth family. He also explains his party’s arguments for changes to banking and electricity, and gives his views on immigration, jobs and the election.

Three guests with plenty to say. Where do you stand?

CHAPTERS

0:00 Show introduction

9:39 News and zodiac chat

19:06 John Minto — activism, Palestine and October 7

41:27 Political commentary

45:28 David Wilson — NZ First, banking, power prices and immigration

1:14:46 Don Brash — split voting, the election and New Zealand’s future

1:45:14 Closing remarks

Shubz Says So | Episode 120

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