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Ryan sits down with Tim, founder of Forged in Sport, to unpack what their research revealed after analyzing dozens of real conversations with athletes who were building businesses, thinking about it, or already deep in it.

The big takeaway: if you don’t sort your identity first, the business won’t fix it. In fact, it can make the emptiness louder.

Tim breaks down seven key insights that reshape how we should think about life after sport, especially for athletes considering entrepreneurship.

What You’ll Hear:

• Why identity comes before your business idea
• How chasing business to replace sport’s “high” leads to burnout
• The money trap: why trying to match athlete income fast can backfire
• Why perfectionism delays everything, and why “start earlier” was the most common regret
• The reality of business: ambiguity, no scoreboard, no clear rules
• The mindset shift athletes must make from “I win, you lose” to “everyone can win”
• Why athlete support often disappears when it’s needed most, and how that damages transitions
• The hidden risk of relying only on your sporting network for business advice
• Why athletes often miss key financial fundamentals like pricing, cash flow, and profit
• Why doing it alone slows progress, and how ego gets in the way of asking for help
• How defining success on your own terms changes everything after sport

Golden Nugget

If you build a business to replace sport, you will eventually burn out or feel empty, even if the business “works.” The identity work has to come first.

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If you are looking for career clarity for your next step, visit www.2ndwind.io
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Joseph Ogacion grew up in the Philippines, once averaging 0.5 points per varsity basketball game, watching the Sydney Olympics on TV and dreaming of racing there one day. He wasn’t the tallest, the strongest, or the most resourced. But he had something else: the ability to suffer more than anyone else.

Today, Joseph is a marathoner headed to the Paris 2024 Olympics and an elite time trial cyclist, juggling two world-class disciplines while working full-time in pediatric physiotherapy in Australia.

What You’ll Hear

• Why his average of 0.5 points per game in high school basketball became the unexpected beginning of his running career
• How skipping meals to afford a secondhand bike became the gateway to elite cycling
• What it means to be “fair to your sport” and honest with your effort
• The link between his physiotherapy training and athletic edge
• Why he trains at an average heart rate of 181 and what that says about his physiology
• How he learned to channel self-doubt into world-class endurance
• Why switching nationality from the Philippines to Australia opened the door to greater competition
• What every athlete can learn about adaptability and control
• The surprising crossover between hitting Olympic splits and sales quotas at work
• How he balances ambition, fatherhood, and a demanding career
• Why breaking down big goals into daily 3.52-hour training blocks changed everything
• What meeting childhood idol Steve Moneghetti meant after 25 years of dreaming

Golden Nugget

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If you are looking for career clarity for your next step, visit www.2ndwind.io
to learn more or book a consult.

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Ben Herring knows what it's like to be knocked back, knocked out, and still come back stronger. In this episode, he shares the raw, unpredictable journey from overlooked schoolboy to pro rugby player, then international coach. From New Zealand to Japan to Australia, his story is filled with lessons on ego, identity, starting over, and building a life beyond sport.

In this episode, you will hear:

- Why Ben kept his goals private, and how he methodically mapped out his career

- What it's like to have four kids born on four different continents while chasing a coaching dream

- How early rejection and C-team selections shaped his resilience and humility

- Why being overlooked until 21 gave him a major advantage in pro rugby

- The surprising financial advice he followed that set him up for life after sport

- The hard truths of concussion and how personal ownership helped him recover

- Why he originally said no to coaching—and how his wife changed his mind

- What great coaches do beyond tactics and drills

- The art of building culture, and why environment always beats strategy

- How coaching is really about connection, trust, and helping others shine

- Why every athlete should regularly “start again” with a new challenge

- His take on ego, identity, and letting go of the need to be seen

Golden Nugget

" If you've never had to start from the bottom, you're going to struggle when your sporting career ends. But if you've made a habit of starting again; learning a language, trying something new, being a beginner, you’ll be ready. And you'll be excited."

Want to Go Deeper?

If you are looking for career clarity for your next step, visit www.2ndwind.io
to learn more or book a consult.