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A Seat at the Table

A Seat at the Table

Written by: Capital Region Family Business Center
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Welcome to A Seat at the Table, Trials and Triumphs of Family Business, hosted by Natalie Mariani Kling, a 4th generation family business owner. This program is a creation of The Capital Region Family Business Center, a non-profit agency whose purpose is to help family businesses grow and prosper.One thing about being a part of a family business, is that it’s unique. Family businesses often began very simply, with a person who had an idea. Rarely were these people educated in business or finance, they usually didn’t have big investors, sometimes, they didn’t even speak English. But they saw an opportunity that could support their family, and so they started.Once these family businesses grow and are handed to 2nd, 3rd, 4th generations, there are not only the complexities of any growing business, but also the dynamics of family and relationships and navigating things like, which family member will be CEO, should this year's profits be reinvested or distributed? Differences in opinions can complicate Sunday night dinners, estate planning, who wants to keep running this business, preserving a legacy, entitlement, privilege, imposter syndrome…but there can also be magic.In a time where we want to KNOW the people behind a brand, and where authenticity and trust play a big part in our purchases as consumers, having a family that runs and operates a business over generations can create a very special culture where its success is built on relationships from vendors to employees to customers.On this podcast, expect real conversations with real family business members about what it’s like to be in a family business, run a family business, and the trials and triumphs of taking it into the next generation.© 2026 A Seat at the Table Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • Episode 43: Founder to Future - Navigating Growth in Family Business
    Jun 4 2026

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    What happens when a family business advisor is also navigating the realities of family business at home?

    In this episode, host Natalie Kling sits down with Craig and Joyce Hettrich of The Hettrich Group to discuss the unique challenges and opportunities that family-owned businesses face as they grow.

    Drawing from decades of leadership experience and years spent helping entrepreneurs scale their companies, Craig and Joyce share practical insights into one of the most difficult aspects of family business: separating emotion from facts while preserving the passion that makes family companies special.

    The conversation explores succession planning, accountability, leadership development, bringing in outside talent, and the delicate balance between family relationships and business performance. They also discuss their own journey as spouses, business partners, and parents working alongside the next generation.

    Whether you're a founder struggling to let go, a next-generation leader looking for greater responsibility, or a family business owner navigating growth, this episode offers valuable lessons on leadership, trust, and building a legacy that lasts. You can learn more at Hettrich Group EOS.

    Chapter List

    00:00 Family Business and Leadership Foundations
    04:04 Launching The Hettrich Group
    07:09 Working Successfully as Spouses
    11:12 Bringing the Next Generation into the Business
    14:06 Separating Emotion from Facts
    17:16 Letting Go and Scaling a Company
    20:52 When Leaders Are in the Wrong Seat
    25:15 Accountability, Ownership, and Family Dynamics
    33:47 Building Trust and Bringing in Outside Talent
    39:10 Creating a Family Legacy for Future Generations
    43:17 Understanding EOS and Growing with Intention
    45:02 Hard Work, Luck, and Building Success

    To learn more about the Capital Region Family Business Center visit our website HERE. To learn more about River City Bank and how they can benefit your family business, visit www.rivercitybank.com

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    47 mins
  • Episode 42: More Than a Winery. Creating a Multi-Generational Family Business at Sean Minor Wines
    May 12 2026

    Let us know what you thought of this episode and any other comments you may have.

    Sean and Nicole Minor didn’t just build a successful winery — they built a family business grounded in relationships, resilience, and long-term thinking. In this episode of Capital Region Family Business Center’s A Seat at the Table, the founders of Sean Minor Wines reflect on their journey from meeting at Arizona State University in the 1980s to launching their winery in 2005 while raising four young children.

    Sean shares how years of experience in the wine industry — from Napa to Oregon — gave him the confidence to create something from the ground up, while Nicole explains what it meant to support that leap with unwavering belief and a growing family at home. Together, they discuss the intentional choices that shaped the company: avoiding unnecessary debt, building through relationships instead of heavy assets, and focusing on long-term sustainability over rapid growth.

    The conversation also explores the next generation of leadership as their daughter Elle steps into the role of head winemaker, the realities of succession planning, and the evolving challenges facing today’s wine industry. Thoughtful, honest, and deeply personal, this episode is a masterclass in balancing entrepreneurship, marriage, family, and purpose.

    To learn more about Sean Minor Wines, visit: https://www.seanminorwines.com/

    Chapter Overview
    00:00 – Introduction and the founding story of Sean Minor Wines
    02:00 – Meeting at Arizona State and the values that shaped their relationship
    08:45 – Sean’s wine industry journey and the decision to start their own winery
    12:00 – Launching the business with four young children and a leap of faith
    16:00 – Building a winery through relationships instead of heavy assets
    19:00 – Breaking through during the economic downturn and rapid growth
    22:30 – Nicole joins the business and helps lead the digital transformation
    27:00 – Raising children around the business and Elle’s path to head winemaker
    32:00 – Succession planning, family dynamics, and building a real business
    42:00 – The changing wine industry, future growth, and defining success

    To learn more about the Capital Region Family Business Center visit our website HERE. To learn more about River City Bank and how they can benefit your family business, visit www.rivercitybank.com

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    57 mins
  • Episode 41: From Two Trucks to Three Generations: The Kludt Oil Story
    Apr 1 2026

    Let us know what you thought of this episode and any other comments you may have.

    In this episode, host Natalie Kling speaks with the Kludt family—three generations behind Kludt Oil, a Northern California fuel delivery company that started with a small gas station and two trucks in 1962 and has grown into a trusted provider serving farms, ranches, and businesses across the region.

    What makes this conversation powerful isn’t just the longevity—it’s how each generation has shaped the business in its own way. From a matriarch who built the financial systems by hand, to a second generation that bet everything on growth, to brothers now navigating leadership together in a volatile and evolving industry.

    We talk about what it really looks like to grow up inside a family business, how roles evolve over time, and the constant tension between working in the business and working on it.

    This is a story about legacy, adaptability, and the reality of running a business where family, employees, and customers are all deeply connected.

    Why It Matters

    Family businesses are the backbone of local economies—but sustaining them across generations is anything but simple.

    This episode highlights the real challenges: succession, sibling dynamics, hiring the right people, and navigating industry disruption. It also reinforces something deeper—values, culture, and trust are often the true drivers of long-term success.

    There’s a lot to learn here about stewardship, resilience, and building something that lasts. Not to mention how the family is dealing with an oil shortage/crisis at the time of the recording.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Introduction & the Kludt Oil origin story
    01:00 – From a small gas station to a growing fuel delivery business
    03:00 – Early risks, reinvestment, and building infrastructure
    07:00 – The matriarch behind the systems and profitability
    10:00 – Growing up in the business across generations
    16:00 – Expanding services and driving revenue growth
    21:00 – Brother dynamics and leadership evolution
    31:00 – Culture, employees, and treating people like family
    35:00 – Industry volatility and fuel market challenges
    43:00 – Working on vs in the business
    50:00 – Hard work vs luck—and what really drives success

    You can find more about Kludt Oil by visiting their website: https://kludtoil.com/

    To learn more about the Capital Region Family Business Center visit our website HERE. To learn more about River City Bank and how they can benefit your family business, visit www.rivercitybank.com

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    55 mins
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