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Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure

Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure

Written by: Bret Fisher
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Where LLMs, AI Agents, and MCP tools meet DevOps and platform engineering. How can we humans use non-deterministic, often hallucinating LLMs to automate our infrastructure and help us with the job of software lifecycle management? I’m Bret Fisher, and this is the Agentic DevOps podcast. After the invention of AI Agents and the MCP standard in late 2024, I started this podcast in early '25 with a narrow topic focus… to document and advise how AI Agents, MCP tools, and large language models can be used in the real world for assisting with DevOps automation, platform engineering, and day to day systems operations… a podcast series hopefully without the hand-wavy AI hype or dreams of a pure AI workforce. I'm joined by expert guests trying to make use of crazy texting robots.© bretfisher.com
Episodes
  • Rogue AI or Just Sloppy Ops?

    Rogue AI or Just Sloppy Ops?
    Sep 25 2026
    The OpenAI Hugging Face hack. The Anthropic testing failures. Listen to the security and ops experts, not lab researchers. I walk you through the production failures that allowed OpenAI’s models to access the internet, and what we can learn from the last few months on how to protect our systems and data. Let’s stop debating imaginary outcomes and start working through that security backlog in our infrastructure.I agree with the labs needing to slow down, but not because I believe AI will do uncontrollable harm on humans, but because the labs clearly need better production security and ops teams and more advanced lab infrastructure that’s been properly hardened. They also need to become a production ops security innovator and share that knowledge far and wide.Watch the video of this episode. Thanks to SpeechifyAI for sponsoring this podcast. Get started for free.Check the benchmarks for Best Provider Text-to-Speech.😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.★Articles★The Hugging Face Incident Is Not an AI Story - Marius HoratauFrom Frenzy to Freakout - Ciaran Martin & Professor Alan WoodwardStop Freaking Out and Start Fixing Things - SANS InstituteFragments: September 8th - Martin FowlerWhen AI can do more than we can check - Christian CataliniI'm sorry, you're not going to die from an AI-engineered supervirus - Claus WilkeThis Week in Security - Zack Whittaker★Other stuff★'Big Short' investor Steve Eisman on AI: The companies are trying to manufacture a crisis - CNBCxkcd: Dependency - so much of our systems are this.xkcd: Python Environment - and also this.Defense Factory - OpenAIInvestigating three real-world incidents in our cybersecurity evaluations - AnthropicAnatomy of a Frontier Lab Agent Intrusion: A Technical Timeline of the July 2026 Incident - Hugging FaceMy recommended podspec, with seccomp enabled - Bret FisherCreators & Guests Bret Fisher - HostBeth Fisher - ProducerYou can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy. Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com (00:00) - Start(01:51) - Speechify AI(03:04) - The Hugging Face Incident: Facts(07:07) - Attack Timeline & Escalation(15:33) - Root Cause: Infrastructure Failure(21:15) - Expert Analysis: From Frenzy to Freak Out(23:41) - Martin's Key Points(28:13) - Expert Analysis: Alan Woodward(34:47) - SANS Institute Takeaways(37:47) - Other Good Resources ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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    43 mins
  • AI Agent Sandboxing with Nono

    AI Agent Sandboxing with Nono
    Aug 21 2026

    Luke Hinds, co-founder of nolabs Inc. and the nono project, joins me to dig into AI agent sandboxing with the nono CLI. It's been my go-to sandboxing tool for local agent use, but I know there are more features I should be using, like secure secrets injection and egress URL path control.

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    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.



    ★Show Links★

    • nono website
    • nono repo on GitHub
    • nolabs website
    • OpenSSF SLSA


    Creators & Guests

    • Bret Fisher - Host
    • Beth Fisher - Producer
    • Cristi Cotovan - Editor
    • Luke Hinds - Guest

    You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!

    Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy.
    Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.
    Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box
    Homepage bretfisher.com

    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (04:40) - SLSA
    • (07:38) - Nono Origin and Quickstart
    • (12:19) - Nono Elevator Pitch
    • (22:22) - How Nono Works in Practice
    • (46:42) - DEMO
    • (50:35) - What's Next for Nono?
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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • AI-Native Engineering Culture from a CTO

    AI-Native Engineering Culture from a CTO
    Aug 1 2026

    My friend Mike Rollins joins me for a chat about what it’s like leading a software engineering team that doesn’t read code anymore.

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    Thanks to SpeechifyAI for sponsoring this podcast. Get started for free.

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    😇 My new GitHub Security workshop has launched! A free 2-hour workshop with hands-on labs to harden your repos and your workflows from common supply chain attacks. I'll cover how attackers are getting in, and then we'll lock down a sample repo so you know what needs to be done to protect your code. You'll leave with a deep understanding of risks and mitigations as well as a list of helpful tools to keep your repos safe, including my new "gasa" tool for scanning your repos and orgs.



    ★Show Links★

    • https://github.com/rollinsio/delta-v-dev-container-boilerplate
    • https://github.com/rollinsio/beyond-test-coverage (expand your testing strength)
    • https://rollins.io/
    • https://www.instagram.com/rollins.io


    Creators & Guests

    • Bret Fisher - Host
    • Beth Fisher - Producer
    • Cristi Cotovan - Editor
    • Mike Rollins - Guest

    You can also support this podcast by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!

    Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses on Udemy.
    Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.
    Grab some merch at Bret's Loot Box
    Homepage bretfisher.com

    • (00:00) - MAIN - Video Podcast
    • (02:14) - Welcome Mike
    • (02:23) - Mike Rollins AI First Journey
    • (06:55) - Speechify.AI
    • (07:57) - Agentic Delivery and Safety Nets
    • (17:50) - PR to Production
    • (35:10) - Testing and PR Chaos
    • (47:49) - Harness Safety and Cost
    • (54:25) - Maturity Milestones and Wrap
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    1 hr and 4 mins
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