• Biochemist, Ninja, Speaker, Author | Angela Gargano
    Jul 29 2026
    Angela Gargano has a name for the place nobody talks about. When one door closes, another one opens — but no one talks about the hallway in between. Angela knows the hallway. She was a biochemist working twelve-hour overnight shifts in a hazmat suit when a friend asked her to help film an American Ninja Warrior audition tape. The videographer told her to submit her own. She got cast — with two weeks to learn how to be a ninja. Then, on her comeback season, in front of a national television audience, her knee buckled on the course. A torn ACL, live on TV. Doctors questioned whether she'd compete again. She'd just opened a gym. She smiled through the pain until a wise friend gave her the words that changed everything: feel your feelings — but don't get stuck here. Eleven months later she was back on the starting line. And she'll tell you she won the moment she stood on it. This conversation is about what she built in that hallway. Angela is a six-time American Ninja Warrior competitor, founder of Pull Up Revolution — a program that has helped thousands of women get their first pull-up — a keynote speaker, and now an author: her book, The Hallway In Between, arrives September 2027, a deal she landed by sending a proposal she wrote in three days. We go deep on the comeback framework — feeling emotions all the way through so you can move through them faster, controlling what you can control, and celebrating wins too small for anyone else to see. Then Angela gives us the full pull-up masterclass: the overhead mobility everyone skips, the brain-to-lat connection, and why the women in her program — some in their fifties and sixties — walk away with far more than a chin over a bar. If you're standing in a hallway of your own right now, this is your episode. The door will open. Build while you wait. Follow Angela on Instagram @angela_gargano, get your first pull-up at https://www.angela-gargano.com/ and look out for her book The Hallway In Between, coming September 2027. Thank you to our sponsor Orange Toucan: orangetoucan.com Code: KELSEY25 for 25% off Chapters (00:00) Old Friends Reunite (01:22) Ninja, Speaker, Author (01:49) The Book Deal (02:06) The Hallway In Between (03:15) Shooting Your Shot (04:24) A Book Proposal in Three Days (05:04) Detaching From the Outcome (07:55) Biochemist in a Hazmat Suit (09:15) Accidentally Auditioning for Ninja Warrior (10:22) Two Weeks to Become a Ninja (11:21) Rejection and Rebuilding (11:57) Tearing Her ACL on Live TV (13:38) Rock Bottom (14:43) Permission to Feel (18:18) The Comeback Framework (22:34) Back on the Starting Line (23:07) Winning Before the Buzzer (25:01) Redefining Success (27:55) The Pull Up Revolution Origin (34:12) What a First Pull-Up Takes (39:21) Training the Brain-Lat Connection (45:35) Twelve Weeks to a Pull-Up (50:27) Client Transformation Stories (52:37) The Coach Hires a Coach (53:24) What Are You Growing In (53:52) Choose Your Advice Wisely (54:27) Trusting Your Own Decisions (56:24) Leadership Means Trusting Yourself (56:41) Where to Find Angela (57:55) Farewell
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    59 mins
  • Coach, Mogul, Legend | Jeanette Jenkins
    Jul 22 2026
    Jeanette Jenkins has a line she's built thirty years on. You can't be blessed to the next level until you just start from day one. Day one, for her, was a pool deck in Ottawa — a lifeguard and swim instructor working forty hours a week while carrying a full course load on an academic scholarship. Then it was a Greyhound bus to New York with almost no money, standing in the back of a 500-person step aerobics ballroom, running up to the presenters afterward to say: I want to do this for a living. Today, Jeanette is one of the most respected coaches on the planet. Eighteen certifications. A client list that includes Pink, Alicia Keys, Nia Long, Jurnee Smollett, and Olympians. A streaming platform — The Hollywood Trainer Club — with over 600 workouts. And she's still adding certifications, still teaching group fitness, still starting from day one. This conversation is a masterclass in building a career — and a body — that lasts. Jeanette talks about the audition she didn't get, and how it pushed her to produce her own DVD series that ended up in seventeen countries. About living in a $600-a-month studio so she could buy her first property, and the mentor who taught her to be an iron fist in a velvet glove. About training Pink for a full year before a tour, and getting Jurnee Smollett ready to fight as Black Canary. And we go deep on the thing underneath all of it: why a squat is still a squat no matter what the algorithm says, why visible abs don't mean healthy, and why she made a rule — for herself and every client — that negative self-talk doesn't get a seat in the room. If you've ever wanted proof that consistency beats hype — in fitness, in business, in life — this is your episode. Start from day one. Then keep starting. Follow Jeanette on Instagram @msjeanettejenkins and train with her at https://thehollywoodtrainerclub.com/ Thank you to our sponsor Orange Toucan: orangetoucan.com Code: KELSEY25 for 25% off Chapters (00:00) Welcome and Eight Years of Friendship (00:36) Thirty Years, Eighteen Certifications (01:58) Starting in the Water (03:32) Scholarship and Human Kinetics (04:33) First Fitness Conference in NYC (06:08) Meeting Donna Richardson (06:49) The Move to LA (07:49) Hired at Crunch and TV Debut (10:49) Learning Behind the Camera (11:57) Producing Her Own DVD Series (13:34) Celebrity Clients and Red Carpets (15:24) Cross Training Philosophy (17:04) A Squat Is Still a Squat (18:25) Coaching Beyond Aesthetics (19:24) DVDs to Streaming Pivot (20:29) Buying HollywoodTrainer.com for $30 (21:39) The Bikini Bootcamp Lesson (24:26) Choosing Happiness Daily (25:35) Iron Fist, Velvet Glove (30:18) Multiple Streams of Income (34:22) First Property on a Trainer's Salary (38:51) Training Pink, Alicia Keys and Nia Long (44:03) Sprint Intervals and VO2 Max (47:15) Jurnee Smollett as Black Canary (48:19) Stop Comparing Yourself (52:04) The No Negative Self-Talk Rule (55:20) Where to Find Jeanette (56:05) Farewell
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    57 mins
  • Addict, Champion, Father, Friend | Ken Rideout
    Jul 15 2026
    Ken Rideout has a line he tells his kids when they look scared at sports. *Just learn how to do this scared.* It's the truest sentence he says in this episode. Because Ken has spent his whole life doing things that, by his own admission, half of him was sure would crush him. The fifty-five-year-old man across the chair from me has won a marathon world championship in his age group. He finished Ironmans, ran across the Gobi Desert, won HYROX, and finished sixth overall at Ironman Wisconsin. He runs ten miles a day, every day, and has for years. He looks like someone who decided, a long time ago, to be unafraid. He hasn't. He told me 49% of his brain is convinced, before every race, that he's going to get killed. This conversation is about that other 51% — and the long, complicated road of getting there. Ken talks about being a prison guard at eighteen. About making a million dollars a year by twenty-five with imposter syndrome so loud he was taking thirty Percocets a day to quiet it. About sobriety in 2010, the night his wife found him unconscious in the bathroom, the day he quit Ironman in Kona and the sting of that quit that he says has never left. We talk about the running, which he describes as empowerment *and* fear — that he doesn't actually know what to do with himself if he doesn't go. About body dysmorphia at fifty-five. About the voice that says *take a break, take a day off, come on, let's get high*, and how he answers it now. If you've ever wondered what it looks like to keep moving forward when half of you doesn't believe you can, this is your episode. You don't have to feel ready. You just have to learn how to do it scared. Follow Ken on Instagram @ken_rideout and get his book available here: https://www.theothersideofhard.com/ Thank you to our sponsor Orange Toucan: orangetoucan.com Code: KELSEY25 for 25% off Chapters (00:00) Welcome and Connection (00:37) Endurance Feats and Daily Runs (02:40) New Book and Life Chapters (03:39) Gobi March and Curiosity (05:19) Prison Guard Beginnings (07:01) First Days Behind Bars (09:25) From Prison to Wall Street (11:44) Trading Desk Culture (13:15) Imposter Syndrome and Fast Money (15:16) Opioid Addiction Timeline (17:52) Doctor Shopping and London Escalation (22:04) Rock Bottom and Getting Sober (24:56) Triggers Trauma and New Tools (25:48) Running as Recovery and Identity (28:00) Ironman Mindset and Extreme Training (32:03) Marathons vs Ultras (32:36) Gobi March Crash (33:03) Never Quit Mindset (34:52) Kenya Race Wildlife (37:11) Inner Voices Addiction (39:12) Body Image Self Talk (42:14) Wife Cancer Journey (43:12) Choosing Suffering Daily (45:15) Hard Work Wins (47:47) Racing Pain Reality (55:05) Unplugging and Uniform (57:29) Met Gala Thom Browne (01:01:28) Crowds Fights Farewell
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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Always Growing with Kelsey Heenan
    Jul 8 2026
    Always Growing with Kelsey Heenan goes behind the curtain with the trainers, comedians, athletes, doctors, and quiet experts you’d assume have arrived — to share the habits, the hurdles, and the never-before-told stories of what it actually took to get here. Each week, Kelsey sits down with someone she admires for a warm, unguarded conversation about the messy, ongoing work of growth — the part nobody puts on the highlight reel. Because growth has no finish line — and if we’re being honest, none of us ever fully arrives.
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    1 min