Chris joins the show to discuss how he developed his unusual bounty-based, pay-on-results approach to his practice, which grew out of his frustrations with a coaching and therapy industry optimizing for the wrong things (like feeling good) instead of the right things (like people actually winning at life). Also mentioned in the episode, Sept 18 is the deadline to apply to Reconstellation, the camp where you can take your project from inspiration to follow-through in 90 days! https://www.reconstellation.org/

Notable Timestamps:

(00:06:50) The efficient market hypothesis, Chesterton's fence, and "local optimality" as a lens on self-help claims (00:09:16) Chris's own burnout story and the limits of self-guided meditation and self-help books (00:14:52) Developing embodiment, equanimity, and internal awareness together, safely and in sequence (00:20:15) The origins of "one-shots" and the early pay-on-result bounty model (00:27:03) Learning vs. unlearning: two fundamentally different modes of client transformation (00:36:03) The structural incentive problems baked into therapy and coaching business models (00:43:36) The origin story of Chris's pure-bounty, pay-on-results model in year one (00:48:22) The "woo" language of coaching vs. tracking real, externally visible results (00:59:13) Why awareness-raising practices can backfire, and the myth that equanimity comes from more awareness (01:01:36) What actually gives people lasting equanimity, according to the success stories Chris has tracked (01:15:33) Why unlearning is more like surgery than skill-building, and the risks of untracked self-help (01:21:52) How Chris's business model is evolving from pure bounty toward value-based pricing

Tee expounds on the parts of his interview with Spencer that could be especially useful or interesting!

This includes traversing the philosophy that informs how Tee makes sense of common issues clients bring (e.g. burnout), adding an additional high leverage point for effective leadership and management that wasn't mentioned in the episode with Spencer, and more examples of the types of perception shifts that clients have found incredibly valuable.