Episodes

  • Bonus Episode: A Supercut in Honor of National Apprenticeship Week
    May 1 2026

    In honor of National Apprenticeship Week, Joe tees up a handful of memorable clips from past episodes of Apprenticeship 2.0. Hear insights from Kathleen deLaski, Founder and Board Chair of the Education Design Lab; Dr. Mallory Dwinal-Palisch, Co-Founder of Reach University and Oxford Teachers Academy, and current President of Craft Education at Western Governors University; Alison Griffin, Principal Consultant at FutureRise; Ryan Craig, Author and Investor behind Achieve Partners and Apprenticeships for America; Jeff Selingo, higher education thought leader and longtime higher ed journalist; and Shalin Jyotishi, Founder and Managing Director of New America's Future of Work and Innovation Economy Initiative.

    Listen to the full episodes:

    • deLaski: Examining Alternative Higher Education Pathways
    • Dwinal-Palisch: In Pursuit of a More Viable Career Pathway
    • Griffin and Selingo: Rethinking the College-to-Career Pipeline
    • Craig: Reframing the Conversation Around Apprenticeship Degrees and Higher Ed
    • Jyotishi: The Convergence of AI and Apprenticeship

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    16 mins
  • Breaking Down Hiring Standards, AI, and Evolving Talent Pathways
    Apr 20 2026

    In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Dr. Anastasia Wickham, Provost and Chief Academic Officer at Reach University, chat with Matt Sigelman, President of the Burning Glass Institute, and Mark Schneider, Nonresident Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Stony Brook University. Together, they discuss the intersection of labor and education market data, why employers are dropping bachelor's degree requirements and what that signals for the value of the degree, whether admissions standards truly matter in today's education landscape, barriers to scaling skills-based hiring, how AI is playing into all of this, and much more.

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    53 mins
  • Rethinking the College-to-Career Pipeline
    Apr 13 2026

    In this episode, Joe chats with Alison Griffin, Principal with FutureRise, and Jeff Selingo, higher education strategist and longtime journalist. Together, they discuss whether higher education and the workforce are due for radical realignment, what's driving the shift toward apprenticeship and work-based learning, evolving student perspectives on career pathways and how institutions are responding, what needs to happen with higher ed and workforce policy, what a more aligned education-to-workforce system could look like moving forward, and much more.

    Read these recent articles from Alison:

    • The Jobs Report Tells A Story About The Future Of Work: Are We Listening?
    • The Postsecondary Crossroads: Why America Needs More Than College For All
    • Here's How The Dual Mission College Model Works

    Check out Jeff's book, Dream School: Finding the College That's Right for You.

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    48 mins
  • The Apprenticeship College of Health: Reimagining the Healthcare Career Pathway
    Apr 9 2026

    In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Laura Hopkins, Executive Director of the Healthcare Training Fund, chat with Dr. Metoka Welch, Executive Dean of the Apprenticeship College of Health (ACH); Dr. Anastasia Wickham, Provost and Chief Academic Officer at Reach University; and Melody McKee, Director of Behavioral Strategy at the Healthcare Training Fund. Together, they discuss the impetus and origins of the ACH, why apprenticeship degrees are needed in behavioral health, how the ACH differs from other healthcare apprenticeship pathways, how the ACH will maintain a rigorous curriculum while supporting workers from all walks of life, how the ACH is reinventing how behavioral health employers develop and retain talent, and so much more.

    Learn more about the ACH at www.healthapprenticeship.org.

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    46 mins
  • Building Successful Startup Apprenticeship Programs From the Ground Up
    Mar 16 2026

    In this episode, Joe chats with Heather Terenzio, Director of the Incubation practice at JFFLabs, and Carlos Vazquez, Founder of GoSprout. Together, they discuss the upfront questions to answer when starting an apprenticeship program; how startups should think about compliance and governance when launching and growing an apprenticeship program; building apprenticeship into a lean startup, without compromising quality or learner outcomes; how federal and state policymakers can further incentivize employers to expand apprenticeship programs; advice for entrepreneurs looking to create their own apprenticeship programs; and much more.

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    34 mins
  • Designing Inclusive Executive Apprenticeship Pathways
    Mar 9 2026

    In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Dr. Eric Dunker, Chief Engagement Officer at Reach University, chat with Diego Mariscal, Founder and CEO of 2Gether-International (2GI); Philip Minardi, Co-founder of BuildWithin; and Dr. Susan Crystal-Mansour, Interim Executive Director at the National Restaurant Association Educational Foundation. Together, they discuss apprenticeship pathways for executives with disabilities; standardization and measurement of registered apprenticeship for startup executives; scaling apprenticeship across massive, high-turnover industries and barriers to expansion; constraints that often break inclusive apprenticeship models at scale; how 2GI's model could serve as a basis for other startup apprenticeship models; and much more.

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    50 mins
  • Mapping, Modeling, and Mobilizing the Future of Work-Embedded Degrees
    Mar 2 2026

    In this episode, Joe and guest co-host Dr. Eric Dunker, Chief Engagement Officer at Reach University, chat with Ivy Love, Senior Policy Analyst in the Center on Education and Labor at New America; Laura Love, Senior Vice President, Work-Based Learning, at Strada Education Foundation; and Michael Horn, Author, Adjunct Lecturer at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, and Co-founder of the Clayton Christensen Institute for Disruptive Innovation. Together, they discuss the impetus and findings from New America's recent report, Mapping the Landscape of Degree Apprenticeship: Expanding a Promising Model for Mobility; whether work-embedded degree models layer credentials onto existing roles or disrupting the status quo of the relationship between work and higher education; barriers to scaling accessibility, responsiveness, affordability, sustainability, flexibility, and collaboration in work-based learning; effective policy levers for effective degree apprenticeship growth; where this is all headed; and much more.

    Dive into Mapping the Landscape of Degree Apprenticeship: Expanding a Promisng Model for Mobility.

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    52 mins
  • One-to-One: Achieving Apprenticeship Success Through Thoughtful Development
    Feb 2 2026

    In this episode, Joe chats with Matthew McKenney, President and CEO of JobForward. Together, they discuss Matt's background as a welder and a CNC machinist apprentice, how that background connects to the work JobForward is doing now, the organization's customizable-but-scalable approach to apprenticeship, overcoming complexities and upfront barriers in apprenticeship program development, how Matt and JobForward define and track success, opportunities to strengthen apprenticeship pathways moving forward, and much more.

    Music by Evgeny Bardyuzha from Pixabay.

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    49 mins