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As The Money Burns

As The Money Burns

Written by: Nicki Woodard
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 All they want is love. Everyone else wants their fortune. Based on historical research, As The Money Burns is a deep exploration into the lives of actual heirs and heiresses to some of America’s most famous fortunes and what happens when the Great Depression hits. A narrative podcast that explores history, psychology, and finance.℗ & © 2020 As The Money Burns Drama & Plays Social Sciences World
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  • Kiss the Bride, Part 2 of 2

    Kiss the Bride, Part 2 of 2
    May 29 2026
    Wedding bells are ringing for trip down the aisle number three. Only there is not an actual aisle, and not everyone is full of glee. Part 2 of 2 November 1933, despite her broken arm Madeleine Astor marries Enzo Fiermonte from her hospital bed. More press scandal follows them on their way to honeymoon in Palm Beach. Other people and subjects include: Madaleine Talmage Force Astor Dick Fiermonte, Colonel John Jacob Astor IV aka “Jack,” John Jacob Astor VI aka “Jakey,” Enzo Fiermonte, William Vincent Astor, Alice Ava Muriel Astor Obolensky von Hofmannsthal, Prince Serge Obolensky, Princess Barbara Hutton Mdivani, Prince Alexis Mdvani, Prince David – Prince of Wales – future King Edward VIII – Duke of Windsor, Mrs. Katherine Talmage Force, William Force, William Dick, William Dick Jr., John Henry Dick, Philip Lyndon Dodge, Charles Lindbergh, Anne Morrow Lindbergh, Vanderbilt reference, Margaret Brown – Unsinkable Molly Brown – Maggie Brown – Mrs. James J. Brown – Mrs. J.J. Brown, Catherine Ellen Brown aka “Helen,” Caroline Astor, William Waldorf Astor, Viscount Waldorf Astor, Nancy Astor, Eileen Gillespie, Lawrence Gillespie, Irene Sherman Gillespie, Brooke Hart kidnappers, Dr. Moullowd, Dr. Watson, Madeleine’s lawyer, gray haired female friend, City Court Official, Philip Hines, Municipal City Justice Vincent Lippe, photographers, reporters, private physician, dead millionaire, Maryland lynch mob, widowhood, wedding, hospital room, allowance, newspaper clipping service, Italian wedding, wedding kiss, flowers, champagne buffet, deluxe accommodations, Car National private car service, private railcar, the Titanic, Vulcania, Berengaria, Aquitania, the Olympic, Doctor’s Hospital, Pennsylvania Train Station, Breakers Hotel fire, Waldorf Astoria Hotel, Manhattan, Long Island, Palm Beach, Bermuda, Lido, Italy, Nevada, tracking down articles, True Story Magazine – “Kept Husband” 6 articles series by Enzo Fiermonte, Dionne quintuplets, finding physical copies, New Yorker, Vogue, GQ, Newport Historical Society, Newport Library, Bowling Green University, University of Texas, University of Chicago, UCLA, collectible comic store, Ebay, Shadow of the Titanic by Andrew Wilson, YouTube channel Ti’s Hot Mess History, wish for AI – Artificial Intelligence assistance with footnotes and bibliography, Hays Code, Pre-code Hollywood, 1920s & 1930s social rules and sexual references, Thirteen Women (1932), Myrna Loy, Peg Entwistle, Hollywood sign, The Women (1939), Norma Shearer, Joan Crawford, Kept Husbands (1931), The Dancing Lady (1933), Clark Gable, Franchot Tone, Algonquin Table humorist Robert Benchley, Fred Astaire, Ted Healey and his Stooges – Larry Fine, Jerome “Curly” Howard, Moe Howard, blackmail, drug use, affairs, stealing husband, racial bullying, first screen credits, heirs & heiress romances, FX Hulu Love Story tv series, Caroline Bessette Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, Jr. – JFK Jr – John John, Micheal Bergin, Daryl Hannah, Markie Mark – Mark Wahlberg, Calvin Klein underwear model, tell all book, biographies, The Other Man by Michael Bergin, $3k on Ebay, reprints, C. David Heymann, Poor Little Rich Girl re: Barbara Hutton, American Legacy re: Carolyn Bessette & JFK Jr., plagiarism & fabrication allegations, Ask Not by Maureen Callahan, actor Eric Braeden from Young and the Restless and James Cameron’s Titanic,… -- Extra Notes / Call to Action: 7th Anniversary of As The Money Burns podcast last month (April 2026) The Nerve with Maureen Callahanhttps://www.youtube.com/@TheNerveShow Ask Not by Maureen Callahan 2024https://www.amazon.com/Ask-Not-Kennedys-Women-Destroyed/dp/0316276170 The Other Man by Michael Bergin will be re-released around June 2026 in print and is immediately available via Kindle.https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-other-man-michael-bergin?variant=45086513659938https://www.amazon.com/Other-Man-EPB-Kennedy-Bessette-ebook/dp/B0GTF27XM8 I walked Out of the Titanic Audition… Eric Braeden | Still Here Hollywood Podcast with Steve Kmetko 6 min clip on Titanic rolehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT1sV0Zib7E whole interviewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNfyWIf_WKE Ti’s Hot Mess History, YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@TisHotMessHistory Riches to Ruin – Titanic Widow of John Jacob Astor & Her Troubled 3rd Marriage by Ti’s Hot Mess History July 2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODY-qiEn3ak The Scandalous True Story of Titanic’s Wealthiest Passenger – JJ Astor & His Teen Wife by Ti’s Hot Mess History May 2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF89xKNWbow&t=25s The Rich Boy Nobody Wanted: Titanic Baby John Jacob Astor VI by Ti’s Hot Mess History December 2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rlV8oT6lxs Share, like, subscribe -- Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com. Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands Section 1 Music: Let’s Fall In...
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  • Unholy Alliance, Part 1 of 2

    Unholy Alliance, Part 1 of 2
    Apr 17 2026
    Once for money, twice for love, maybe thrice for lust. Some women become brides more than bridesmaids. Part 1 of 2 Returning from Bermuda to New York in November 1933, Madeleine Astor prepares for her third wedding to Enzo Fiermonte and more press scandals. She takes back a trip down memory lane of the seduction and scandal with her first marriage to John Jacob Astor IV leading to their fateful trip on the Titanic. Other people and subjects include: Madaleine Talmage Force Astor Dick Fiermonte, Colonel John Jacob Astor IV aka “Jack,” John Jacob Astor VI aka “Jakey,” Enzo Fiermonte, William Vincent Astor, Daisy Van Alen, James Van Alen, Katherine Force Spencer, Mrs. Katherine Talmage Force, William Force, William Dick, William Dick Jr., John Henry Dick, Caroline Astor, Alva Vanderbilt Belmont, Carrie Astor Wilson, Grace Wilson Vanderbilt, Ava Lowle Willing Astor, Charlotte Astor Drayton, Gertrude Vanderbilt Payne Whitney, “Birdie” Virginia Graham Fair Vanderbilt, Margaret Brown – Unsinkable Molly Brown – Maggie Brown – Mrs. James J. Brown – Mrs. J.J. Brown, Catherine Ellen Brown aka “Helen,” William Waldorf Astor, Lawrence Gillespie, Irene Sherman Gillespie, Mrs. Ogden Mills, Mrs. Helen Roosevelt Robinson, Dr. Carnes Weeks, Edith Searle, Josephine Wright, Reverend George Chalmers Richmond, Father David Phelan, Western Watchmen, Reverend Dr. J.J. Muir, St. Valentine, Valentine’s Day, Valentine themed party favors, ball, annual Astor dinner dance, cotillon, fashion, jewelry, diamond solitaire engagement ring, “Runaway” drama, Billie Burke – Folies Bergere – Glinda the Good Witch, Reverend Joseph Lambert, Elmwood Congregational Temple, sermons, The Fee Refused, Sodom, unholy alliance, Henry Beattie, Jr., murder, electric chair, divorce, cuckoo, vampire, age mismatched marriage, divorced, adultery, remarriage, scandal, snub, “Dream Girl” play, Women’s League for Animals, talisman, Ushabti statue, Social Register, press scandal, Butte Miner newspaper, St. Valentine, charmed circle – the 400, Monarch of Bermuda, Lifeboat 4, Lifeboat 6, Titanic, Carpathia, Nourmahal, Noma, Doctors Hospital, Bar Harbor Swimming Pool Club, Metropolitan Opera, Plaza Hotel, St. Regis, Beechwood cottage, Astor Mansion 65th Street and Fifth Avenue, first Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, Manhattan, Rhinebeck, Newport, Rhode Island, Bar Harbor, Maine, Reno, Nevada, Bermuda, Egypt, Denver Museum, rabbit holes, names, married and divorced names for women, Titanic passenger lists, 1925 Breaker Hotel fire, hypochondria, anxiety, heroine, widowhood, motherhood, The Second Mrs. Astor novel, Shana Abe, folklore vampires, literary vampires, Sheridan LeFanu, Carmilla, Bram Stoker, Dracula, cinematic vampires, The Vamp archetype, seductress, Gene Fowler, Timber Line book 1933, James Cameron, Titanic (1997), Titan submersible, Oceangate, Stockton Rush, Wendy Weil, FX Hulu Love Story tv series, Caroline Bessette Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, Jr. – JFK Jr – John John, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis – Jackie, Daryl Hannah, Princess Diana, antagonized and villainized in the press, press friendly, recycle and resurrect past tragedy via social media, more favorable press decades after death, public disapproval… -- Extra Notes / Call to Action: Psychology Today Gossip, Power, and the Stories We Tellhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/wild-connections/202603/gossip-power-and-the-stories-we-tell Why We Gossiphttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/long-fuse-big-bang/202603/why-we-gossip Ti’s Hot Mess History, YouTube Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@TisHotMessHistory Riches to Ruin – Titanic Widow of John Jacob Astor & Her Troubled 3rd Marriage by Ti’s Hot Mess History July 2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODY-qiEn3ak The Scandalous True Story of Titanic’s Wealthiest Passenger – JJ Astor & His Teen Wife by Ti’s Hot Mess History May 2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF89xKNWbow&t=25s The Rich Boy Nobody Wanted: Titanic Baby John Jacob Astor VI by Ti’s Hot Mess History December 2023https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rlV8oT6lxs Share, like, subscribe -- Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com. Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands Section 1 Music: Red Sails In The Sunset by Casani Club Orchestra, Album The Great Dance Bands Play Hits of the 30s Section 2 Music: A Reckless Night On Board An Ocean by Sydney Lipton, Album The Great Dance Bands Play Hits of the 30s Section 3 Music: A Foggy Day by Carroll Gibbons, Album Sophistication 3 End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands --https://asthemoneyburns.com/ X / TW / IG – @asthemoneyburns X / Twitter – https://x.com/asthemoneyburns Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/asthemoneyburns/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/asthemoneyburns/ ©℗ 2026. Nicki Woodard. All rights reserved. As The Money Burns® is a ...
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  • Glass Cage - 6th Anniversary Bonus

    Glass Cage - 6th Anniversary Bonus
    Apr 4 2026

    This is the 6th Year Anniversary recap and teaser of future storylines.

    Allegory about seduction and betrayal in greenhouse with parallels to storylines. Playful hints and teasers of themes involving love and fortune, along with updates on podcast history and goals of the series.

    Other people (*referenced not specifically mentioned) and subjects include:
    Barbara Hutton, Doris Duke, John Jacob Astor VI aka “Jakey,” Prince Alexis Mdivani, Louise Van Alen, James H.R. Cromwell aka “Jimmy,” Prince Serge Mdivani, Prince David Mdivani, Eileen Gillespie, Ellen “Tucky” French, Madeleine Talmage Force Astor Dick Fiermonte, Enzo Fiermonte, Lindbergh baby kidnapping, heirs, heiresses, marriages, divorces, weddings, scandals, betrayals, sports, life changes, challenges, envy, listener interactions

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    Extra Notes / Call to Action:
    Mansions of the Gilded Age
    Instagram: Mansions of the Gilded Age and The Gilded Age Society by Gary Lawrance
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/mansionsofthegildedage
    https://www.youtube.com/c/MansionsOfTheGildedAge

    New York Adventure Club www.nyadventureclub.com
    Stories Among the Stones *formerly Power Privilege & Money
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/memoirsofthepast

    Past Perfect Vintage Radio
    https://www.pastperfect.com/radio/
    www.pastperfect.com

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    Archival Music provided by Past Perfect Vintage Music, www.pastperfect.com.
    Opening Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands
    Section 1 Music: These Foolish Things by Benny Carter, Album Perfect Blues
    Section 2 Music: Nightfall by Benny Carter & His Orchestra, Album Nightfall – Sophisticated Jazz Classics
    Section 3 Music: Top Hat, White Tie and Tails by Carroll Gibbons & Boy Friends, Album Sophistication – Songs of the Thirties
    End Music: My Heart Belongs to Daddy by Billy Cotton, Album The Great British Dance Bands

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