Buckle up. Episode 9 of Average On Purpose features our guest Patrick, who worked at the NSA during the same era Edward Snowden was there. Patrick joins us for a chaotic, laugh-heavy, mini therapy session where we ask the questions everyone wants to ask—and he shares what he can share. Expect real talk, uncomfortable truths, and the kind of “wait… what?” moments that make you pause and rewind.

• What it was like working inside the NSA during that time, and what the public doesn’t understand about how it all works

• How security culture actually feels day-to-day: training, protocols, paranoia, and the unspoken rules

• Patrick’s perspective on the Snowden era and the ripple effects that changed everything

• What people assume about intelligence work vs. what it’s really like behind the scenes

• The line between “spilling the beans” and what he legally/ethically can’t say—and how weird that line is in real life

• A few unexpectedly human moments: stress, identity, humor as coping, and why people inside the system are still just people

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Buckle up for a wild ride. In this episode of Average On Purpose, we serve up a chaotic, laugh heavy mini therapy session with two best friends who do not research anything and proudly talk out of their ass.

In this episode, we get into
Spicy gay romance and BookTok favorites including the Game Changers universe and Heated Rivalry
Unfiltered sex talk, religious word choice that still makes us laugh, and why our brains cannot behave
Viral TikTok sounds, weird brand TikTok, and what our algorithms are doing to us
The Sims obsession, custom characters, mods, and building the gay hockey dream house
Pop culture and Drag Race talk, plus the Nicki Minaj and Cardi B timeline
Mental health, sobriety, friendship dynamics, and why joy matters right now
Psychic readings, past lives, and other chaotic internet purchases

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This episode is unhinged in the best way. We spiral from Heated Rivalry obsession straight into military conspiracies, including S.A.B.E.R., the alleged secret term tied to extraterrestrials. Add in unfiltered admissions we did not plan to share and you get classic Average on Purpose chaos. Pop culture, paranoia, and feral honesty collide. Listener discretion is strongly suggested.
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