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Cave To The Cross Apologetics

Cave To The Cross Apologetics

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  • What’s The Atheist’s Metaphysical Basis For Anything? – Ep.356 – The Great Debate – Stein’s 2nd Cross-Examination
    Feb 2 2026

    What’s The Atheist’s Metaphysical Basis For Anything?

    While this is supposed to be Stein’s 2nd cross-examination of Bahnsen, we see Bahnsen causes the atheist to stumble by trying to get him to provide the atheist’s metaphysical basis for anything – here specifically for math and the laws of logic. The Christian has a basis, one that the atheist doesn’t like, but that’s better than nothing or a lack of the ability to provide anything.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction
    02:09 – Is Math Theistic Or Atheistic
    04:30 – Math Is Christian Because It Couldn’t Be Anything Else
    06:12 – Delving Further Into This
    08:11 – Is No Other Explanation Needed?
    09:27 – The Christian’s External Answer That Is Required
    11:29 – Unreasonable Demand On The Atheist?
    12:31 – How Does An Atheist Justify Non-Material Laws?
    14:10 – How Does A Christian Know Logic Reflects The Mind Of God?
    19:06 – Atheist Doesn’t Buy, Or Understand
    20:34 – Atheists Don’t Desire Metaphysical Proof Of Other Concepts They Agree With

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video
    The Bahnsen Institute

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

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    24 mins
  • Atheist Logic By Experiment Or Agreement? – Ep.355 – The Great Debate – Bahnsen’s 2nd Opening – Part 2
    Jan 26 2026

    Atheist Logic By Experiment Or Agreement?

    Finishing up Bahnsen’s attempt to help out his atheist opponent provide justification for his use of logic, we look at logic being shown through experimentation or agreement. And like the good Christian Bahnsen is, he provides a good overview and then sinks the foundation of the atheist to claim any grounding for logic.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction
    01:47 – Atheist Logic From A Posteriori?
    04:07 – Are Laws Of Logic Contingent Under Atheism?
    06:29 – Why Do Laws Of Logic Work In Different Areas The Same
    07:50 – Atheist Logic Just Linguistic Convention?
    09:27 – If So Then They’re Culturally Relative
    11:59 – Why Do Atheists Decry Moral Failure Of Christians
    13:13 – What Type Does One Give To Back Up Atheistic Materialistic Logic
    15:04 – Atheists Steal From Christians To Use Logic
    15:45 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video
    The Bahnsen Institute

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

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    16 mins
  • The Failure Of Atheistic Logic – Ep.354 – The Great Debate – Bahnsen’s 2nd Opening – Part 1
    Jan 19 2026

    The Failure Of Atheistic Logic

    Where Stein has claimed that the laws of logic are only agreed upon but useful, Bahnsen is having a hard time accepting that – because it’s wrong. It’s up to Bahnsen to try and make the case for the atheist metaphysical use of the laws of logic. But it’s also up to Bahnsen to shoot those down too and show the failure of atheistic logic.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction
    01:57 – A Battle Of Worldviews
    05:46 – The Atheist Doesn’t Have Reason To Use Reason
    07:10 – The Christian’s Reason For Reason
    08:08 – The Laws Of Logic Need A Mind
    08:28 – Helpful Remind Of The Laws Of Logic
    10:06 – Justifying Truth Of Logic Without Needing To Test It
    11:42 – Not Proven Because They’re Used
    13:40 – Logic Is More Conceptual Than Empirical
    14:31 – Why Logic Can Always Be Used Consistently If They’re Only Agreed Upon
    17:12 – If Logic Relies On People Only Why Don’t We Have Different Scholarships
    18:49 – To The Library!
    21:06 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video
    The Bahnsen Institute

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

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    22 mins
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